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Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.

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Sorry, no sneer today. I'm tired of this to the point where I'm dreaming up new software licenses.

A trans person no longer felt safe in our community and is no longer developing. In response, at least four different forums full of a range of Linux users and developers (Lemmy #1, Lemmy #2, HN, Phoronix (screenshot)) posted their PII and anti-trans hate.

I don't have any solutions. I'm just so fucking disappointed in my peers and I feel a deep inadequacy at my inability to get these fuckwads to be less callous.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

MOD NOTICE: we're not putting up with debate club rubbish in this thread. If you don't have the reading comprehension to understand the problems with those threads, you shouldn't be posting here.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

not on topic at all, but this thread once again makes me appreciate awful.systems as the sane corner of the internet that it is. just no tolerance for bullshit and great values. i wish i could just take that for granted, but it's become exceedingly rare. thank you <3

and lol to all the shitheads thinking they can spew their shitty "opinions" on how people feel

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

On the hn thread, so many green names.

Gotta say, lemmy seems like the only sane place when it comes to minorities and linux development.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Sorry what is a HN green name?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

very new user. Hn accounts have a really low barrier to entry.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

A very new user.

It's basically free to create a HN account, it's not tied to email or anything like that.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

i've heard it said before from people better at wording it than i am, but seeing this: it's crystalizing for me that people really do see "a trans woman" as "a woman i'm still allowed to abuse". i can call her mannish, i can tell everyone she's making it all up, i can call her hysterical and dramatic, i can freely speculate on her mental state to the approval of my peers, and no matter what she does -- leave loudly, leave quietly, stay and suffer the torment -- it will always be her fault and she will always be doing it wrong

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, many men see every women, including cis, as one they're allowed to abuse and all the other things you mentioned. And then it'll be her fault for being "hysterical" or something similarly dumb.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

it's the same playbook, to be sure

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 hours ago

You would think someone has to be somewhat open minded and accepting of diversity to use FOSS. Life is full of disappointments. Sorry to see her go through this.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Phoronix needs to shut down their comment section it has always been a cesspit of morons

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, Phoronix is somehow a tier below even below HN. The Gamergate freaks of Linux enthusiasts. At least on Slashdot or HN, you might occasionally get someone with actual technical expertise posting. Phoronix just seems like a playground to push whatever the latest "I got this software for free and I hate it" grievance is, which is a profoundly pathetic thing indeed.

[–] [email protected] 107 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

jesus fuck

it’s not particularly gonna help or even make me feel better, but I’m probably gonna reopen that first Lemmy thread a little later and just start banning these awful fuckers from our instance. nobody attacking Asahi has a god damn thing to say to any member of our community.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I hate it so fucking much that a non-trivial number of FOSS communities have become hostile nazi bars in the last years (or maybe they always have been and I've just not noticed it before).

Why would anyone shit on Lina of all people? She's such a nice and wholesome person and her work is exceptional.

Fuck these asshats.

Also, from that one Lemmy thread:

What fascists are ruining OSS?

LOL! Lmao even. Just input Linux into the YT search bar and you have roughly a 50% chance of getting fascist content.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (8 children)

maybe they always have been and I've just not noticed it before

As someone that was a 'nerd' back in the day before Big Bang Theory made 'nerds' cool, I'm gonna say that they always have been and you just haven't noticed before.

The nerd / tech crowd have always been a bunch of miserable little sexists and dorks with a superiority complex. And half the time that little Timmy got stuffed into a locker or dunked into a toilet, he fucking deserved it. And to me, it's really no surprise that they're homophobic and transphobic too.

If Big Bang Theory was actually accurate, Howard and Raj would be prolific posters on incel forums that whine and gatekeep every time the girls come over and then later whine about being lonely, and Sheldon would be borderline nazi. Not sure about Leonard because even without changing anything about the show, he's still the only half decent one of the lot.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 13 hours ago

I’d like to see a Venn diagram of computer nerds and incel, goth, trans, nazi, furry, hippy, punk, etc.

There’s a lot of diversity and I’d guess it would have some correlation with area of expertise.

I never got the sense that FOSS was particularly incel/anti-LGBTQ. But, tech support, maybe.

Would make an interesting sociological study.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Wow, those phoronix forums have really turned pure fash, haven't they?

[–] Feyd 16 points 12 hours ago

Tbf, that entire comment section got nuked, but I feel like the admin should either take a stance and moderate some, or at least disable comments on articles that are obviously going to have that problem instead of even giving an outlet to those monsters in the first place

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