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Typst, a very nice Latex alternative, written in rust has published job listings.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (15 children)

57k€ for someone with Rust experience?!

Maybe that "Rewriting things in Rust is just to get rid of old people that can command high salaries" LinkedIn Lunatic was right after all...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (7 children)

While they don't write it explicitly I think they're looking for a good junior developer, given that:

  • they are not asking for Rust work experience, instead for good Rust knowledge and experience with open source development, both of which you can obtain on your own if you're a competent student

    • but also, is there even anyone that has experience in Rust and compiler/interpreter/typesetting development and is looking for a job? If they did require that almost nobody would qualify and the cycle of "I don't have experience for applying to this job to get experience" would continue
  • 57k€ is not a bad salary for a junior developer in Europe

  • the two founders have graduated recently (~3 years ago) and have been working on Typst since then (their master thesis was on creating Typst itself), so it's likely they are looking for someone like them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Once upon a time, a "meaningful wage" was something that would allow you to raise a family of 4 while living a comfortable middle class standard of living.

57k€ gross salary in Berlin amounts to ~3360€ per month net income. Rent alone will eat 30-40% of that.

You can survive on that salary, which is more than most people are managing to do nowadays. But to think that someone with such specialized competency should expect a "not bad" salary shows a pretty sad state of affairs.

[–] BatmanAoD 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rent eating 30-40% of your income is extremely normal, isn't it? Or is that only true in the US (where it has recently become much more than that for many people)?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You missed the last paragraph, didn't you?

I don't know about you, but I don't think we should accept to be working for less or to accept a lower standard of living just because so many people have it worse.

As long as your work is:

  • honest
  • ethical
  • providing real value to whoever is paying for it
  • not pushing externalities for others

Then "what is normal" should have no bearing in this.

[–] BatmanAoD 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay, what I meant was, is rent taking 30% really indicative of a low standard of living?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not so much of a good measure of how you live but on how much (or little) people are left for other things, including saving/investing towards their own homes.

[–] BatmanAoD 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like we're talking past each other. My impression was that 30% towards your living situation is a pretty decent target; what would you expect the percentage to be?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I will paraphrase my father: "it doesn't matter how much money you are making if you are spending most of it. If you want to build wealth, you need to look at how much you can set aside every month".

what would you expect the percentage to be?

A lot less. When I was single and sharing an apartment, I'd pay 600€ on a ~4000€ netto salary. 10 years, a marriage and two kids later, our place is about 1400€ even when our combined income was 3.5x as much.

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