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Meta announced that users on Threads will be able to see fediverse replies on other posts besides their own. In addition, posts that originated through the Threads API, like those created via third-party apps and scheduling services, will now be syndicated to the fediverse.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Great.
I joined the Fediverse to escape Facebook's toxic interpretation of communities, so Facebook is coming to the Fediverse instead.
Just great...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You should just join an instance that blocks threads.net. Fortunately there are many of such instances. Your current instance doesn't seem to defederate any other instance, which is kind of suspect on its own.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Blocking everyone and every community you see from Facebook's new parasite social media could be good, me thinks.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (4 children)

@[email protected] You can just use an instance that is defederated from them, that's the beauty of the Fediverse

According to https://lemm.ee/instances your instance already blocks them for example

@[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

can't you selectively block entire instances? you can in Boost

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

It's not just a matter of blocking Threads users.

Facebook is coming on here to slurp up data I don't want them to have, and enriching their own Threads ecosystem with Fediverse content they haven't lifted a finger to create.

Not to mention, when Threads users are able to fully interact in the Fediverse, do you really want that particular bunch to create noise in your communities? I don't. There's a reason why I avoid Facebook in all its forms.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Uh.. this fediverse stuff is all on the public internet. Facebook could be slurping it up just as easily without joining at all.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

right but if I block their instance, they can never interact with me and vice versa.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Aw, buddy, cheer up.

Here's some minions memes doing racist things! I mean, I assume thats what goes on if you're on facebook.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Check https://fedipact.online for instances that have defederated threads. Good luck! :)

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t like this rebranding to “open social web” like it was made for them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Something that is open and free was, by definition, made for everyone. Even the robber barons you hate.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Boo. Go away Zuck and take your shitty vertical videos with you.

[–] NostraDavid 10 points 3 months ago

We used to say that people who made vertical videos had Vertical Video Syndrome. It was a terrible time.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (13 children)

Note: You can't interact with Threads accounts from Lemmy, but you can interact with Threads accounts from MBin (and maybe PieFed), except if your instance is defederated from them obviously

There's POTUS account for example @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy doesn't implement Mastodon (which is the fediverse version of Twitter), only their own Lemmy one (Reddit clone). Kbin and Mbin implement both, as does pyfedi/piefed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why does Lemmy not interact with Mastodon if the other two can?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Design choice by the creators.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Am I the only one who thinks that's a bad choice? The whole point of the fediverse is that all the things are connected.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is open source and so anyone who wants to add this functionality is free to do so.

Considering who the original creators of Lemmy are and the controversy over lemmygrad.ml however, I'd say that we dodged a bullet, all things considered.

If you want a thing that tries to integrate with everything, consider pyfedi - in addition to Lemmy and Mastodon they also have code to integrate with pixelfed and probably even more things (I'm still learning about all the integrations that it has).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

So I tried to search for pyfedi, and the only things I found are some repos. Not quite sure what to do with that. HOWEVER, a few different repos seemed to list piefed as the thing it do.

So is pyfedi the same as piefed.social ?

I am enjoying the layout of piefed. It's quite tasty! I hope this is the thing that does the other thing.

But what if I transfer my Lemmy account to Piefed? Will I still be able to create communities on Lemmy.World? Or am I going to just end up with two different accounts, on two different sites, that do 97% the same thing?

Or am I just wrong all around, and pyfedi has nothing to do with piefed, and I've stumbled onto a different thing that does the thing that the other thing couldn't do, but is still connected to, but not in the same way, but still uses the same services?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What happened to Kbin btw? I used to be on there since the start but the page has been broken since a while for me

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was run by one guy who had health issues. So it shut down. Mbin is the main fork now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Ah I see. Good thing someone continued it tho!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The owner of kbin.social (and creator of kbin incidentally) has been MIA for a few months now, so it's presumed that it's over. I haven't heard of anything concrete regarding the fate of kbin.social or ernest though - unless someone has heard differently, it remains possible that ernest returns in a year or two and brings kbin.social back up.

Edit: I thought that https://kbin.earth/ still existed as an instance still running ernest's original flavour of kbin (as opposed to its sucessor mbin) but it turns out it has been moved to mbin as per the reply below.

With that, I'm not sure if anyone is still on the original kbin codebase at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because right now the Threads federation is still pretty one sided, the Fediverse users can reply to the Threads posts, but the Threads users can't see the Fediverse posts, only replies

And with how Lemmy works, you can't reply to the microblogging accounts, you can't reply to Mastodon's posts neither, so you can't get your replies federated

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

That doesn't seem right. I remember responding to a few mastodon threads from lemmy and I was able to see my reply on the other end.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

lemmy devs just havent put in the effort, but its clear they are on that path.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Why would I want to interact with people on threads? I’m here for the Lemmy community.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yep, pyfedi supports Mastodon integration just like mbin.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Not quite as good as Mbin. For example you can't follow someone on mastodon from PieFed. They can follow you, though.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I am so glad my instance is defederated

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't think i've ever seen a Threads message in any of my Lemmy / Mastodon feeds. Perhaps I'm not mixing in the right circles?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Your instance likely defederated threads

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Threads posts wouldn't really appear on lemmy unless they deliberately format the post to tag a community. And they wouldn't be able to see replies either.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fediverse is not super far from original internet idea with the exception of convenient block feature. Let’s hope that’s enough to prevent the sequel.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't want to see commercial content. I also don't want others to see it because it will pollute the culture of the Fediverse.

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