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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Ategon to c/meta
 
 

Hey everyone, ive got pangora-ui (our new frontend being built ([email protected]) to a decent enought state where I can start doing mod actions from it

Due to that ive managed to implement a community hiding system to make certain communities' posts not show up by default so that we can now fully follow our rules in the sidebar

Communities that are hidden

  • Will show up as having no posts
  • Will not have posts show up in the feeds or from searching

However if you subscribe to a hidden community you will then be able to see all of their posts like normal in every location

Hidden communities will still be findable themselves in the community list and from searching


If you are currently subscribed to hidden communities you should see absolutely no difference in your ability to view them

You should however see the all feed getting more manageable to navigate and sort by new now that it isnt being drowned out by bot posts

Communities that are currently being hidden include: communities that are 50% bot posts or more and politics communities

For bots this includes communities in instances like

  • lemmit.online
  • derp.foo
  • (the bot art community in) lemmy.dbzer0.com
  • zerobytes.monster
  • radiation.party
  • lemmy.smeargle.fans

Quick comparison between our all feed sorted by new vs lemm.ee's so you can see what hiding bot communities did


You may still see a couple pop up since I havent dealt with all of them yet but the amount of bot communities showing up will get lower and lower over time

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Ategon to c/meta
 
 

Hey everyone! Wanted to give a quick update on some federation status with other communities

burggit.moe

burggit.moe has been defederated from for two main reasons

  • They ignore DMCA requests and dont follow it. We get a copy of all of their posts due to how federation works and since this rule is instance wide it can easily apply to a new community in the future if we purge current ones. We dont have the manpower to handle other instances continually breaking the law and then us needing to deal with that with takedowns

  • They post pornographic content that is illegal / in a gray area in the US that I would rather err on the side of caution in terms of allowing due to things like the PROTECT Act and certain states explicitly banning it themselves

hexbear

Hexbear defederated from us so to prevent one way conversations I have added them to our blocklist as well. If the hexbear admins decide to unblock us I can do the same and go back to the previous stance of hiding their politics related communities from the all feed once that feature is implemented into the site

Misc

There are a couple misc pleroma and mastoton instances that ive added to our blocklist (and there are a couple more I might add soon) that post content that is extremely against our rules. As they arent lemmy instances purging communities isnt an option and its allowed instance wide

if you have other requests of instances that clearly break our rules (you can find them in the site sidebar) feel free to send me them and ill take a look

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Do we have an established practice for requesting defederation?

I would very much like to request that we defederate from burggit.moe (because I would prefer to keep my lemmy experience free of loli porn) and I went looking for the best way to do this, but the best I could come up with was posting to meta and that seems like the wrong place.

I feel like I missed something obvious ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by RonSijm to c/meta
 
 

Hey there,

I was using https://mlmym.org/programming.dev/ to browse programming.dev because I don't really like the default Lemmy UI. However, as of today https://mlmym.org just redirects to this gist: https://gist.github.com/rystaf/4d591ffdcbaab1c49efa406885efd814.

When checking both https://old.lemmy.world and https://lemmy.world - they both resolve to the same IPs - So it seems like the intended use for this UI is not use it though https://mlmym.org anymore, but for the instances to host it themselves under the ".old." subdomain. In a similar way reddit is doing.

As for how it would look, have a look at https://old.lemmy.world - and probably enable dark mode in the settings.

Was hoping programming.dev would consider supporting this UI as well, under old.programming.dev - It makes the transition from Reddit to Lemmy a lot easier

You can find the repo of it over here: https://github.com/rystaf/mlmym

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https://programming.dev/post/2010603

I don't see myself as a moderator when I visit the community from programming.dev, but when I visit it from a different instance, say lemmy.film, it's showing my name as a moderator.

https://programming.dev/c/[email protected]

https://lemmy.film/c/[email protected]

Please help.

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Whenever I try to post an image this morning, the upload fails no matter what browser/client/frontend I use with:

Request error: error sending request for url (http://pictrs:8080/image): operation timed out

Also this shows a popup with SyntaxError: Unexpected token 'R', "Request er"... is not valid JSON but I assume that's a bug with the lemmy frontend since voyager shows the correct error.

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submitted 2 years ago by canpolat to c/meta
 
 

Question: I sometimes see posts in PD communities that are not in English (most recently in Flutter community). Is there a reason for allowing languages other than English? It definitely doesn't make moderation easier. Or maybe is there a technical reason for that (like Mastodon posts doesn't necessarily specify language and will fall under undetermined)?

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Ategon to c/meta
 
 

We now have some possibility for custom emotes available in the instance (now that the bug that was happening with them was fixed). If anyone has some suggestions for what to add feel free to reply with them

Ive added the p.d logo and a couple game engines for now as an example. You can send the p.d logo by typing :pro (or more of the name) and then it should show an autofill you can select if youre using the website (theres an emoji picker as well but it doesnt work for custom emotes)

programming.dev logo godot logo pico-8 logo unity logo

Ill likely be adding some for the logos of various things but mainly want to know if theres anything people want other than that

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Ategon to c/meta
 
 

Hey everyone! I'll be going through and making features for the site soon (as I've almost got my laptop back) and wanted to know if there was any features that are wanted that I dont already have noted down

I'm currently planning to do:

  • Customizable icon shapes (circle, hexagon, etc.)
  • Flairs
  • Ability to block an instance
  • Ability for admins or community mods to hide communities from the all feed
  • Community short descriptions (to show in the community list + top of sidebar)

And polls are also being worked on by snowe

Will try to get the changes merged into lemmy itself as well but they'll be released here first

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by kameecoding to c/meta
 
 

Some communities there are literally calling for the annihilation of Ukraine

https://programming.dev/comment/1999097

edit: Since people are either willfully or otherwose are missing my point, this is a pro-russia, pro-fascist hate group, therefore we shouldn't give them the platform to spread their shit. this is not about me seeing their community or then causing issues accross other communities, it's about de-platforming fascists.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Ategon to c/meta
 
 

I've been experimenting with putting random quotes from the [email protected] community as taglines in the instance.

It will automatically put a random quote every time you go to a page in the site. I put the ones that are shorter so they don't flood the page, and that were upvoted.

Theres also a link back to the quotes community if you click on the credit where you can discuss about that quote. As more quotes get added to the community the pool of tagine quotes will grow

  • note they may not be visible on certain lemmy clients depending on what features the clients support but they work on web
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Hey everyone! Just wanted to create a post on different things going on in the instance

Matrix Space

Programming.dev now has a matrix space at https://matrix.to/#/#p.d:matrix.org . We had a matrix room before but a space is essentially a collection of rooms so we have sections for different communities, a support room, etc. If you manage a community and want a matrix room for it listed feel free to reach out to me

Instance Rules

I've collected together our instance rules and extended it to be a bit more clear. Here are the rules (and they'll be going on the sidebar as well)

  • Dangerous content on the instance and federated instances including phishing, spamming, brigading, unmarked nsfw, doxing, etc. is not allowed and subject to be handled by the mods or admins
  • Hate speech is not allowed on the instance or in instances federated with it. This includes remarks directed at sex, gender, orientation, disabilities, etc.
  • Other content is up to the discretion of the mods of the community its posted in
  • If a community has no dedicated mods it will be managed by instance admins until a mod team is found
  • If a community mod team has gone inactive and no longer maintains a community new mods may be added
  • Any federated communities that have shown they will not enforce these rules while their content shows up on our feeds will have their community removed from our instance
  • Instances that continually encourage this type of behavior or are built to only do this type of behavior are subject to be defederated
  • Certain content may be hidden from our all feed including politics and bot spam. (Not currently implemented due to lemmy limitations but will be eventually). This means it won't show up in all but you can still view it and subscribe to the communities to have it show in your subscribed feed
  • Bots interacting in our communities must follow our Programming.dev bot guidelines (see below)
  • If an instance is not being managed (due to owners being gone, etc.) it is subject to be defederated

Things that do not follow these rules will be handled. This currently includes

  • Communities in exploding-heads will be removed from our instance
  • Rammy.site will be defederated from due to the site owner being MIA

Bot Guidelines

  1. Mark Bots as Bots Bot accounts should be marked that they are a bot using the checkbox in the user settings. This includes any automation in an account (if you automate part of your personal account, put what the automation is in your bio so people know)
  2. Put contact info The owner of the bot and some way to contact them must be in the bot's bio (unless its an automated personal account, in that case the account itself it the way to contact)
  3. Use mentions as prefix If a bot has commands it should use its mention as a prefix. (This will allow different bots to use the same commands without interfering with each other)
  4. Dont spam Bots should not spam posts or comments. (If a bot command has been used its fine to do a response but dont drown out non bot posts in the local new sort.) Certain cases are unavoidable such as if you want to get a bot posting weekly threads in different communities at the same time but in those cases please contact me first to get it approved
  5. Allow mods to opt in Bots participating in a community should be opt in so communities can choose what bots they want. If you want a bot to be allowed in a community please contact the moderators of that community first. EXCEPTION: If a bot is deemed to be a well behaving bot that brings net good to the instance it can override this rule as long as it has been approved by an admin. This can include things such as a tldr bot, remindme bot, link fixer bot, piped link converter bot, etc. If a bot has overriden rule 5 with this exception community moderators should still be able to opt out of the bot

These guidelines should bring us up to parity with lemmy.world along with allowing a bit more leeway within the instance since there has been some nice bots getting made that I dont want unfairly punished

If you have a bot you want whitelisted for the entire instance for the rule 5 exception feel free to dm me here or on matrix


And that's everything for this month. Progress on some features for the site is still ongoing. My laptop is currently being repaired but once I get it back I'll do a bunch of progress and share some updates here

If you have any suggestions for the rules, bot guidelines, new site features, etc. feel free to throw them down below

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Lemmy Place Event (programming.dev)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Ategon to c/meta
 
 

toast.ooo has hosted a place event for lemmy for the weekend! You can go to https://canvas.toast.ooo and log in using your lemmy account (a bot will send a code to your dms which you can use to verify yourself on the site)

I've started making a programming.dev logo over on the left. Feel free to help out with structure or making something for your community nearby. Theres already c/rust that made a little drawing. Ive been freehanding the looks but aiming to get 5x5 logos of different communities around the p.d text

Will last for the weekend and pixel cooldown is 30 seconds (with it being able to stack up to 6 pixels to place down at once with the stacked ones having a 1 min 30 sec cooldown)

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by nieceandtows to c/meta
 
 

SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data

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There should be 2 comments from me in this post, but I don't see them and their responses until i change view to "Chat". I got notifications that I have messages there, and i can see responses to my comments only on my notifications page

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I've noticed that for one instance in particular (in my experience), feddit.uk, I am regularly seeing posts not federate properly. The most recent example I have found of this is c/britishproblems

If you compare:
https://programming.dev/c/[email protected]
with
https://feddit.uk/c/britishproblems

You will see there are two posts on the home instance that have not federated to programming.dev, despite both being a month old.

Is there a technical reason that posts so old would not have federated in all this time?


Edit: I seem to be incorrect. The posts are not missing. The instances just show them in a different order (despite both being sorted by 'Active'). I am an idiot.

I'll leave this up as there may be some interesting discussion on how federation does / does not work.

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Site Stability (self.meta)
submitted 2 years ago by kersplort to c/meta
 
 

The site's been down in the morning for the last couple days. Running a new server that gets attention is tough - do the admins for this site need anything from this community? Volunteer time? Money?

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So, it used to work just fine. Then jerboa became basically unusable due to some bug. That was a few weeks ago. I saw an update was available, so I thought to give it another try. It's much more stable after the update, and my lemmy.one account works just fine. But when I try to log in with this account on jerboa, I get an incorrect login error. I set the instance to "programming.dev" and I know I used the right credentials because my password manager filled them in, just like it does in the browser.

Any ideas on a cause or fix? It might be a jerboa issue but I don't get why it seems to only impact this instance.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by ruffsl to c/meta
 
 
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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Ategon to c/meta
 
 

Ive recently been made aware of a language bug existing from building up my remindme bot

The bug was that comments from platforms such as kbin will naturally be set to an undetermined language regardless of what the community language settings are. This makes it so that if people try to reply to that comment, lemmy will break and not let the reply be posted (since its a language that goes against what the community has set)

As a fix to this I have set every community I have access to to be able to handle every single language. (This should be about 90% of the communities, you can check the list in my profile). You shouldnt run into any language invalid errors anymore and should be able to talk to people from kbin now in almost all communities in the instance

You may still run into the bug in other instances though depending on what they have their community language set to

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I noticed that every time I visit the site, I have to log in. I remember not having to do this a few days ago. I was assuming a cookie was being set for a timeframe until I explicitly log out. I can't remember if there was a "remember me" button. I'm using Firefox and tried disabling my extensions, but that didn't seem to help.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by lorefnon to c/meta
 
 

I am unable to subscribe to RSS feeds for programming.dev from a yarr instance hosted on an AWS EC2 instance (ap-south-1).

This issue seems specific to programming.dev. I can access RSS feeds for other lemmy instances without any issues.

I can access the feeds from browser, but when I try to fetch it on AWS I get a 403 error. Curious if this is done intentionally.

$ wget https://programming.dev/feeds/c/programming.xml?sort=Active
--2023-07-17 18:27:15--  https://programming.dev/feeds/c/programming.xml?sort=Active
Resolving programming.dev (programming.dev)... 172.67.137.159, 104.21.73.21, 2606:4700:3031::ac43:899f, ...
Connecting to programming.dev (programming.dev)|172.67.137.159|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
2023-07-17 18:27:15 ERROR 403: Forbidden.
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