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[–] [email protected] 73 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

America does not care about truth. Worse, it actively discourages truth.

Lying is accepted. Making up facts that suit your narrative and shouting down anyone who disagrees gets you rewarded with the highest position of state.

We, the rest of the world, are just watching you guys in horror.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 days ago (5 children)

At Least half of us are basically watching in horror from inside.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

America does not care about truth

Show me a country with social media and I'll show you people who value making their political opponents 'look like fools' by lying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Almost like that people don't care about facts everywhere on the planet.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 days ago (5 children)

This is not "false" this is just "pants on fire lying"

This person should not have the freedom to speak publicly anymore

Screw freedom of expression as we currently have it. Freedom of expression should become a right with responsibility. if you can't be responsible, you can't have the right. You either speak the truth or don't get to speak to groups, period

I'm SO done with literally everyone and everything lying with zero repercussions. Companies lie, all fine. Politicians lie like there is no tomorrow and that's fiiiiine, even Obama lied like 25% and that's fiiiiine, trump literally lies 99% of the time and it's all fine! Nothing happens, so we just lie more and more and you can't trust anything or anyone anymore

Freedom of expression on the internet was a big mistake

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's not freedom of expression that's the issue here; it's the devaluation of responsible public influence such as (but not limited to) quality journalism. Lots of news agencies that used to be reputable are either going out of business or getting bought out by shady people. Hicks (I should know) have always been able to stand at the edge of their property yelling bullshit. The problem is people started listening and putting them up in the town square to yell bullshit (sometimes they even get paid!).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Indeed.

If every time the press quoted somebody they gave right alongside it a count of past occasions when they were caught lying, there would a lot less lying because people would be reading their quote, looking at the count of lies next to it and mentally going "bullshit!" for the big liars.

The excess lying going around is because the liars take advantage of people being physically unable of keeping track of the liar-levels and lies they've been caught on of all the "media personalities" (humans are only capable of managing at best around 200 relationships with other entities, so not just family and friends but also personalities one has an opinion about and even brands).

Part of the reason the Press won't do that is because so many of them are also liars (in the sense that they're actual vehicles for Propaganda rather than having Journalistic integrity) but also in many countries legislation such as Anti-slander Legislation means that if they point people's lies out they can get sued, which is costly even if they win, whilst if they say only good things they get no legal costs, so the whole field is tilted towards painting well know personalities wi the the means or influence to sue news media in a positive light - in other words, the system is designed to protect well connect or rich liars and conmen from being exposed in the most widely circulated media.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It's an tragic fact that correcting a lie is hugely more costly than making and spreading the lie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

That basically sums up all of far right talking points

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

But not quite as tragic as me using the wrong article in a sentence this profound.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Doesn't help that a significant number of modern media and platforms is optimized for content lengths that allow one but not the other (headlines, sound bites, micro-blogging, short-form videos).

[–] mke 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This stupid bitch has since deleted the tweet and gotten back to it like it's another Tuesday. OSFM had to put out a statement correcting it. I hate people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

she deleted the original tweet, then reposted it again.

[–] mke 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My bad, you're right. I tried to check first, but I didn't have the patience to scroll past her claiming America Is So Back because "Starbucks kicked homeless people out of bathrooms," so I ended up not seeing the reposted tweet.

She lies, runs away from OSFM, gets community noted, and still, in the replies:

Um, this is 100% TRUE and WOKE Oregon seems to be covering for WOKE California. Leftists stick together.

There are many people whose work and ideas I deeply respect, but even in my weakest moments, I couldn't possibly idolize them like this useless waste of oxygen does gargling on Trump's ballsack every day.

Because I'm a horrible person, I can foresee that there's zero chance I'll die before doing something monumentally stupid. My greatest shame is realizing it probably won't be as effective as what Luigi did.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago

I wish leftists stuck together as much as the right thinks we do.

[–] ICastFist 15 points 6 days ago

You know how cheaters ruin online games? How their fun relies on fucking everyone, abusing the system and winning without respecting the rules? The same applies to people like her, trump, musk, etc. They're "communication cheaters", they don't respect the rules, they abuse the system, yet platforms want us to believe that they deserve to be treated like common users.

"Waah waah mah 🧊 🍑 waah waah censorship" - Fuck you. If free speech was a game, these people would be banned.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why the fuck you lying? Stop fucking lying. Why you always lying?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Money, grifting is the way the right makes lots of money.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 days ago

Why would known diarrhea fetishist Mila Joy say blatant lies on the internet?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Right wingers haven't cared about the truth for decades. It's just now they don't care whether we know it or not. Just think back to Trump's first term and "alternate truths" and all that. They don't care anymore. They believe what they want to believe, and no amount of facts or reasoning is going to change it.

But yes, everyone lies. Some people just more than others and some will lie to your face with a smirk on their face knowing damn well you know they're lying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

since they repealed the Fairness Doctrine (not that it was perfect) in the late 80s when they realized that balanced reporting was one of the things that forced Nixon's resignation

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Bot? How do we know that isn't just another of Elon's alts?

I suppose somebody could check if she's called him a good father recently...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

AI is going to make misinformation a 100 times worse. There really needs to be laws with bot usage on social media and data privacy laws.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (4 children)

This is something AI would be good for

Have it search for specific misinformation and reply with a canned response with sources using an official account.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Or someone can just train an AI to spit out more misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And so, the bot wars started

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Dead Internet Theory and so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Or someone could train a bot to exaggerate misinformation from known liars

Community note: In fact, Oregon sent over 420 fire trucks but due to the rampage of the woke chupacabra and the cannibals of the northern California mountains, only 69 made it as far south as Sacramento. At that point California officials realized that Oregon actually sent minivans full of weed and spent the weekend hotboxing, using the Jewish space laser that started the fires on the "defrost" setting to heat up the marijuana.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Then it’s going to be AI vs AI

In this case the misinformation AI will be run by Musk’s sugar daddy Putin so it won’t get banned

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

dont need AI for this. its why we have systems like webs of trust and peer verification. standard crypto + some social communication solves a lot of these problems.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Any one who believes it should heed her advice and get out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Is that Threads? Threads is a cesspool of incessant lies, rage- and engagement bait.

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