mke

joined 11 months ago
[–] mke 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the more people say something, the less true it becomes. Good facts die inside an individual mind without ever being shared.

[–] mke 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's not just that. If it was, I'd have been convinced by the new-era freedom fighters using fucking ai horde, or whatever sloppers call their latest open-source [citation needed] model instance.

The biggest issue is the shameless, continuous abuse of creative workers by sucking up all their works without consent.

[–] mke 13 points 4 days ago

What is your point? Lemmy is full of Trump criticism. It's the norm. One thread shitting on Hillary won't change that.

[–] mke 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

GenAI advocates would rather get rid of IP altogether, though. They claim they're all running ethical models already and it's perfect, but they also want artists' right to opt-out to not exist. Nevermind compensation, or the need for opt-in, we can't even agree on the importance of consent.

[–] mke 1 points 1 week ago

I'm sure those free services run on pure hopes and dreams and will do so forever.

[–] mke 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's someone close to me whose near entire existence is basically pain. They still draw.

They hate the idea that their works got sucked by billionaires into giant plagiarism machines that are enriching them further. Pro AI people and tech bros think they should just suck it up and start using fucking AI horde or something, despite the fact that this trend makes them sick and the proposed solutions don't tackle real issues, but spread or ignore them.

One of my main gripes with GenAI is the tech industry's usual disregard for consent. GenAI users saying we should get rid of it altogether doesn't endear their ideal future to me. Saying the same thing as Sam Altman, but totally in a leftist way, just grosses me out.

[–] mke 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Turning it against itself my ass. This is promoting it. Legitimizing it. Normalizing its presence everywhere. Doing exactly what they want.

They're on a niche forum sharing convoluted AI slop, harming that which they claim to stand for. These aren't freedom fighters subverting the system, they're clowns.

[–] mke 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I've heard that many men do this because they've realized, in some capacity, that outright admitting they're right-wing limits their opportunities. In my circles, I've noticed this "I'm actually a centrist/apolitical" trend is also found among popular developers and tech influencers.

Saying you're anti-woke gets you shunned and surrounded by horrible people, but saying you're just apolitical gets you the blessing and protection of self-proclaimed centrists. When you, for example, marginalize LGBT folks and get called out, countless will gather to complain about people "dragging politics into tech." Bryan Lunduke will come out of his cave and write a piece about how the trans fetish is trying to kill open source.

[–] mke -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thank you for acknowledging that. And you may be right about blocking.

I just think it's difficult for folks, me included, to merely hide what they consider to be an issue. They're not comparable, but if I saw a self-proclaimed leftist community sharing anti-union propaganda, I'd rather discuss it. I'm not claiming that's the healthiest mindset or the correct one, but I don't think it's entirely without reason.

These situations, wherein a group broadcasts an idea to everybody, then silences dissent because it's "their turf, their rules," never seemed fair. Shields like "they're trolling", "neoliberals", "bots" and "brigading" intensify the issue—some mod comments read like a mirror of r/conservative. Why does the blame lie solely with one side, when the subject is controversial and sharing it with everyone was also a deliberate choice?

There was talk of an option, for communities, to self-exclude from "all" feeds. Wonder if such features could be a better solution, here. I'll refrain from talking AI and ethics in db0 in the future, but I feel like they should do better, themselves.

[–] mke -2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I'm not blaming AP, just refuting the absurd brigade claim.

[–] mke -5 points 2 weeks ago

Because I make no secret of my opinions and don't filter what I interact with?

If I was part of a secret, AI-hating cabal, what the hell would I be doing here on a thread with like 50 interactions? This has got to be the least advantageous, least productive, most contrived way to further my goals: in the midst of "enemy turf," with no support, getting downvoted and looking like a loser trying to explain what brigading isn't.

There's no pretty way to say this, but you're acting like a conspiracy theorist.

I'm not denying the nature of brigades, I'm saying a lot of the internet hates the genAI trend, is extremely open about it, and that post hit All. This is the simplest explanation, which you're saying isn't the case despite having no actual evidence pointing otherwise. But merely trying to prove the obvious would feed into an apparent persecution complex.

If I stay quiet, you're right, but if I talk you're righter. Have a good day, I guess.

 

A short user story. Nothing new, but probably relatable to some.

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