mke

I want you to know that you were the highlight of this thread for me. Your comment hit me like a stray bullet to the head in Chicago, except I desperately didn't want to go to work, so really, you practically did me a favor.

Not the worst in people, but I agree that it incentives undesirable behavior.

I've thought and read about this a bit. I don't have the answers, but I think the lack of willingness and desire to experiment is damaging to the social experience.

People change. Communities change. Culture changes. Social systems ought to adapt as the need arises.

Yet, here we are, painting over mold and nailing pieces of a system made a decade over that was toxic then, is toxic now, and will likely be toxic tomorrow. How would that ever work? We're not special. We're just another group ready to slip in the same slopes as the previous one.

Should we disable downvotes? Instances doing this never hear the end of it. Should votes be public to all? Dev thread brigaded. C'mon, let's think together, are we actually gonna be reddit, but federated, forever? Surely that's not what you want—Oh. Ohh. Well, my bad, then.

Easy to forget we all have our own wants, needs, and priorities. I'm sure I was the bad part of someone else's experience, just doing what I thought was best. Still, I'm... getting tired, of Reddit 2. I'm not sure it's possible to make it much better. It's all too entrenched.

Which marketing and better how, exactly?

Can anyone please point me an example of Bluesky marketing that isn't word of mouth or large-event headlines on the news?

The wonders of ActivityPub allow Mastodon users to interact with Lemmy, actually. Wild stuff.

Putting aside control and anecdotes, neither of which would be fair to comment on without more context and a lengthier discussion, this breaks the email metaphor a bit, doesn't it?

The Fediverse is just like email, where we all talk to each other, except Outlook blocked Gmail because MS and Google had a fight during a meeting so you're gonna have to migrate to Yahoo or learn to self-host.

That's not necessarily a criticism, I just find it funny.

Maybe you're already aware, but bluesky doesn't operate with instances like in ActivityPub land.

I've seen many people I believe are using their own PDS, but yes, discoverability is likely better because a relay is meant to aggregate and share all data it can (look up "bluesky firehose").

P.S. Mastodon's devs are part of a new initiative to improve this area of the Fediverse. Because it's so recent, we'll have to wait to see how it goes.

Speaking of features, I'm somewhat surprised more people aren't interested in Misskey and co., especially compared to Mastodon's overwhelming share of the Fediverse pie.

Maybe on Bluesky they start with one person less calling them tards.

FWIW you can probably report that. While trying Bluesky, I reported some crappy stuff and I can't remember any that was still up when I checked later.

How did she find my account?

Just like Mastodon/AP, data is mostly public by default. I assume it doesn't take much to find new accounts to spam. We're usually talking about bots here, not normal user accounts, just to be clear.

That's a different thing, and I don't think bigger character limits would help with a culture of not reading past headlines, not verifying and sharing sources, lacking moderation, and so on. Bigger issues.

I doubt this sort of attitude helps, too. Mastodon developers know at least some of its failings. Migrating to Bluesky is not effortless.

The amount of internet spaces with generous character limits and shit discussions makes me think that's far from the biggest issue.