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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not very clear to me that this is any more valuable than OG NixOS.

This sounds a lot like the forgejo vs gitea fork. I love the forgejo people but I am yet to see a sufficient differentiator.

[–] moonpiedumplings 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://forgejo.org/compare-to-gitea/

I dunno, some of these are a pretty big deal, in particular:

Gitea repeatedly makes choices that leave Gitea admins exposed to known vulnerabilities during extended periods of time. For instance Gitea spent resources to undergo a SOC2 security audit for its SaaS offering while critical vulnerabilities demanded a new release. Advance notice of security releases is for customers only.

Gitea is developed on github, whereas forgejo is developed on and by codeberg, who use it as their main forge (also mentioned on that page). Someone dogfooding gives me more confidence in the software.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Tbf most of gitea is hosted on gitea: https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1029

Just not the main repo because of a blocking issue (which makes the above link pretty annoying)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the reason is because apparently a lot of people are unhappy with a deal Nix inked apparently with a company that does business with the US' Immigrations and Customs

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait so people got butthurt that a company made a deal with nix. That company also does business with ICE. And people are mad at Nix?

What am I missing?

Also companies and open source entities do business with all manner of government(s) all the time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Don't really know, hit something about it elsewhere, but it didn't say anything more than that, but yeah, that seems to be the gist of things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They were still pulling in mainline Gitea changes while introducing their own stuff last I checked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Pulling in mainline gitea changes, I did see. But I didn't see any notable differences from gitea. Do you know of any?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Forgejo is working on federation. That is the big item.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Gitea claims to be working on federation too, which puzzles me that forgejo presents it as a differentiator.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Nothing concrete from what I can tell. Becoming a hard fork is relatively recent though (mid-November of last year, roughly).

As a side note, I understand why Gitea and Forgejo went for a "copy GitHub Actions" approach to their CI, but man do I wish more self-hosted repo software tried to copy Drone/Woodpecker instead. Iterative containers in the pipeline is such a smoother build experience, and it kind of sucks that Gitness is the only one doing it (that I know of).

[–] ericjmorey 1 points 8 months ago

I thought Codeberg was providing CI services via Woodpecker. Maybe I got that wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

There's plenty, but I do not wish to hijack this thread, so... have a look at the Forgejo 7.0 release notes, the PRs it links to along notable features (and a boatload of bugfixes, many of which aren't in Gitea). Then compare when (and if) similar features or fixes were implemented in Gitea.

The major difference (apart from governance, and on a technical level) between Gitea and Forgejo is that Forgejo cherry picks from Gitea weekly (being a hard fork doesn't mean all ties are severed, it means that development happens independently). Gitea does not cherry pick from Forgejo. They could, the license permits it, and it even permits sublicensing, so it's not an obstacle for Gitea Cloud or Gitea EE, either. They just don't.

[–] SuperFola 2 points 8 months ago

Last time I checked they were working on forgejo runners / actions!