Oh man... UK is so f* up right now. Hope times get better for you soon.
If I understood this correct from my interpretation of the dutch server description this is an Instance for dutch government officials.
At least Germany also has such a mastodon instance too for quite a while now. So people on mastodon know that an account there is officially a government account. The BSI (German Office for cyber security) and other offices post there.
This is not an Instance for "normal people" to register on.
I think there is definitely so time traveling going on here.
Because I don't see issues there that needs to be addressed. Maybe I missed it or just don't understand it.
The first one is an article from Eugan (Gargron) why meta will not be able to push you Adds or get your personal network data even if an mastodon instance is federating with them.
The second is a (very opiniated and polarizing) how evil companies "killed" open social technologies in the past... Despite the fact that XMPP is not dead. So I really don't get what should be the problems after all.
EDIT: So many spelling errors in there... I'm sorry for that.
Actually I read it. I just don't find it true what was written in the second article.
XMPP and the existing Fendiverse is a completely different situation. Why should the Fedivers loos anything by federating with meta? How should that work? The worst case scenario if we federate with meta is that we go back to where we are now.
The panic that is correctly happening because of all this is much worst then what ever meta could do. IMHO
And I'm on the other side thinking I don't see any reason to defederate threads just because it is run by Meta. We always can change our minds later.
I think we should see threads just as another instance of a new service. If we see that this instance is not playing well we defederate them. So same rules applied to all.
There are still good people on Facebook/Instagram how just never heard about Lemmy, mastodon and the Fendiverse. And even if Threads or other meta platforms will implement activity pup but no real Fendiverse services will allow federation with them those people will still never get in touch with us because they never interact with us.
Just knowing about activity pup exists will not change this. Most of those people don't have a tech background like we have and are therefore less interested in finding out what that stuff is. They will probably assume that this is some meta think to connect to other services of Meta.
I say letting federation open so people can see and find stuff from the Fedivers in meta Services and give people so maybe even the possibility to move from threads to mastodon (or Lemmy although I think this is less comparable to any meta service) will put much more pressure on meta then it will put on us.
If we defederate a few months after (because of any valid reason) this we'll be seen by much more people even on the meta side and the impact of this will be much greater. So meta will be willing to make fedivers happy (or at least less angry?). This gives the power back to us, the people. They will care about us because they are depending on us, at least to an extent. That's what the fedivers was created for I thought.
What should meta possible change about Lemmy or programming.dev? They have no power here even if we federate with them.
Those 3 day GameJams are not really something that fits my schedule... Maybe I'm just searching for excuses here 😅
I hope you will have fun in it. Would like to see the finished result.
Actually there are quite talented game Devs and Artist posting on Instagram. (But threads is not Instagram)
I find it very alerting how preoccupied people here are. How does this makes us any better?
What prevents them from doing this is knowing about programming.dev exist.
I would argue 99% of people interested in programming aren't aware of this little corner of the internet.
No please not!
As least I would request to judge Meta by the same standards by we judge other instances.
Just blocking Threads because it is run by Meta will hurt the federation spirit quite hard in the long term. I don't think open source software would have been where it is now if it's use would have been excluded for commercial work. Same I see with Fendiverse.
I think you misunderstood the purpose of this. This is not for citizens to join it's an instance for government officials and offices. This is very good practice to prove a account is the official account.
But honestly I have more trust in my government to not exploit on me then I have in meta/Twitter.