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I am looking to move on from spotify, what music streaming service pays the artists the best while still having a large library.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (5 children)

None of them. Buy music, don't rent access to it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you're talking about artists under labels, the real way to support them is go to their shows. They get very few proceeds from music purchases.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (10 children)

that would be so expensive no? to buy thousands of songs? and I'd have to buy an album/ track to listen, what if I don't end up liking it?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Please be realistic, who does that in this day and age?

I only know two sides (in the bigger scheme) people who rent it and people who pirate it.

In all kinds of tech media that exists the disc music are the ones that amazes me the most because they still have their spot in certain stores.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I do have a few friends who love collecting vinyl. They're reasonably established in their careers, really seem to love rooting around record shops whenever we travel and have amazing collections that take up a chunk of their living space...

But basically, I agree with you. Those collector friends are definitely the very rare exceptions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Heaps of people still buy music, sales still account for around half of music revenue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I pirate music, but I also purchase most things I end up enjoying as long as it’s reasonably available

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Unless the artist self published it, even buying physical media doesn't give the actual artist much. If you want to support the actual artist, you go to live shows (with tickets bought at the door and not through Ticketmaster) as well as buying the merch they sell at those events. More of those sales go to the bands. Sometimes even 100% of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Do both. Spotify to gain access, buying it to maintain access in perpetuity. I have about 60 or so vinyl albums that I would like my kids to hear in 10 years or so, and I'm hopeful they'll say hey vinyl, cool (it won't happen). But at the end of the day, I've picked out a number of albums that I want to carry into the future with me, and some of those I discovered through my Spotify subscription.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Keeping a local library on your phone and computer.

No need to worry about if a streaming service changes anything, not pepetual bulls just to listen to music

[–] Sl00k 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I generally do this for all my media, but I will never do this for music, there's just such a huge lack of discoverability. Are you just never seeking out new music on the fly?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

https://www.music-map.com

Oh, you like Cattle Decapitation? Then you might like Skinless, Guttural Secrete, Devourment, Pig Destroyer, Rivers of Nihil...

It's not good with really new artists (e.g., The Anchoret, Temic), and artists that have had significant shifts over their careers might give you overly broad results. But it gives you some starting points.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This brings me to an interesting phenomenom with me, I tend to dislike contemporary music, but about 10 years later or so I wtart to really enjoy it.

Then I start listening to music on YT, start playing the same song over and over, and start checking out other songs by the artist, and create a playlist on yt where I can listen to those songs over and over, then I start getting ready to buy the songs on iTunes.

Right now, the latest songs I bought on iTunes was from the Red Alert soundtrack from Frank Klepacki, Blue by Eiffel 65, Walk On Water by Milk Inc, two songs from SkyMarshall Arts, a few songs from the Shock Treatment soundtrack, some Scooter songs, and a song from Gina G.

I go through phases where I listen to a particular genere/artist constantly and will then buy a few songs here and there that interest me, in 2022 I was dealing with double flat feet, double heel spurs, a bad knee and more crap, I would drag myself home from the busstop crying from the pain that each step caused, and I just blasted Sabaton constantly, I got energy and was able to keep working both in the office and on getting better.

And when I got better, I started listening to more Eurodance and fun music, so I bought plenty of Dr. Bombay and Dr. Macdoo, and as I bought my first car this summer I got into classical music set to a disco beat and bought Hooked on classics 1, 2 and 3 as well as Hooked on Themes.

So while I don't constantly look for new music, I am not shy of buying it when I find it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I tend to dislike contemporary music, but about 10 years later or so I start to really enjoy it.

We used to call these hipsters.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Personally I use a combination of a large library of mp3s plus I listen to SiriusXM in the car to discover new artists. I also like to go through the backlogs of artists I find I like, and also dig into their earlier/later works

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I do love PlexAmp, I need a much bigger storage capacity on my phone these days because of all the bangers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

That's fair, I have about 720 songs bought on my iPhone, and plenty more downloaded from remix64.com in VLC

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think Apple Music and Tidal pay the most per stream, but Tidal has a smaller library than Spotify. It might be different now so not sure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Anecdotal, I've not actually had a lot of instances (if any) of Spotify having something but Tidal not, usually find albums that I'm interested in from band camp no problem and if it's missing its missing on both. Sound quality is noticeably higher which is the reason I tend to prefer, the app has gotten better in my experience

I have all my digital copies on my NAS with jellyfin to stream them as well, sometimes it's just easier to stream off tidal or Spotify though

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

With Tidal hell yeah!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I like Qobuz. I find it really good quality through my home hifi and I can purchase from their site too. There is a bundle where you get discounts on the purchase with the sub. Music is really important to me so this is the only thing I sub too.

One of the big benefits for me is that it offers gapless playback. Also I find it the "best" quality and for context I am streaming through a Cambridge CXN V2 into a Musical Fidelity M6si and into a pair of Kef ls50's with a couple of REL subs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Napster pays the most to the owners of the recording as far as I recall

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Innertune is nice too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

does bandcamp suit you?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I strongly recommend Apple Music. It has one of the largest libraries and pays better than YouTube, Amazon, or Spotify.

Apple Music is also platform agnostic; there’s even a browser version now. Also, you can download music and choose the quality. It’s far less “algorithm-y,” which I prefer.

Tidal and Qobuz do pay out more, but have much smaller libraries. I don’t personally like them much. The apps feel subpar.

YouTube and Amazon are straight up bad experiences for me. If this was back in 2013, I’d actually have recommended Google Play Music. RIP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Apple music on android is so bad that I didn't even wait for my premium trial to end to cancel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What device? I’ve only used it on the Samsung S22 Ultra and the Pixel 7. IMO was a fantastic experience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Device doesn't matter, the app sucks. It doesn't even have volume normalization. You just get hit with a sound blast out of nowhere because you had to turn it up to hear the previous song.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love Tidal + Plex. I already had a Plex server set up, but the integration with tidal is great. Good music quality, pays the artists well, and no gaps in the library that aren't also there in the other services. When you add Plex you can then fill in those gaps with your own music files.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I've recently started hosting my music on Jellyfin and using the symfonium app for android. Symfonium is pretty nice and handles offline files well, plus it has a ton of hosting options including Plex, even some experimental options like dropbox

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Youtube music after you uploaded your personal library there, it was how I used play music before.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Airsonic or plexamp

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