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[–] [email protected] 704 points 2 weeks ago (24 children)

There's still one protest possible.

LEAVE REDDIT!!! GET THE FUCK OFF OF IT! LET IT DIE. MAKE IT DIE!

Same with twitter.

[–] [email protected] 246 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)
[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Twitter and Reddit went so much to shit and lowered the bar so much that Meta actually became almost not bad in my eyes, almost.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Meta is still on a whole other level when it comes to data privacy.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gee are you implying that storing passwords in plaintext is a bad thing? /s

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's security, not privacy.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm still pissed off that I've never had a facebook. I never gave them any info about me. I gave them no reason to have a profile on me.

Yet because OTHER people have facebook, they know my name, my address, my phone number. I don't know if they can identify me in pictures that other people post, but it wouldn't surprise me.

That shouldn't be allowed. I did not consent.

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[–] [email protected] 331 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

....I'm gonna go ahead and say it.

I like it better here.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

Same. This place is great, even with the tankies from lemmy.ml and the fascists from hexbear, at least we somehow still get along.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Not all of us are tankies fwiw, I just wanted to be on the largest and most well-supported instance with generally the least amount of downtime.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

I honestly believe that Lemmy is cool, but it either needs more content or I need to perform a magic trick to make my feed "better". At least it's not that addicting, and the "small community, small town" vibes gives charm to it.

I've been here since August 2024 or so.

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[–] [email protected] 236 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The only way to win the reddit game is to not play.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

How about a nice game of Chess?

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[–] [email protected] 166 points 2 weeks ago (29 children)

You know what's not impossible? Leaving that shit hole and never coming back.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

It's amazing to me that so many people are willing to work as unpaid moderators so that Reddit's investors can make more money.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago

There was this one post for a call for mods about "doing a social good for the community".

Like bro, this is a video game subreddit. And you're doing it for free, to help another dude get really rich.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

The best protest is to stop moderating. Lie flat. Let the subreddit go to shit.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's when I knew we lost. When power hungry moderators felt threatened and, instead of standing in solidarity with its users, caved to corporate demands.

"But we'll be able to still protest. Every Tuesday."

Hell are those protests still going on? I highly doubt it.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

People tried that.

reddit corporate will remove those mods and ask which other mods want to be super duper awesome and be able to say they moderate another N thousand users per day for zero pay. And people leap at that.

Until the users leave, nothing will happen. In a fucked way, reddit corporate are doing everyone a favor by removing the spineless "We are going to go silent for 24 hours with no real demands or bargaining power" idiocy.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Many subs did that, so reddit substituted the mods for others that do as they are told.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The dndmemes protests were a pretty incredible thing while they lasted. The mods changed the subreddit to "nsfw" because that disabled most of the monetization. Then Reddit admins told them the subreddit obviously wasn't really nsfw and to change it to accurately reflect the subreddit content.

...so the mods changed the subreddit rules to allow actual nsfw content and people went nuts. In multiple senses of the term.

Of course "accurately reflecting the subreddit" wasn't what Reddit really cared about. They wanted to preserve the advertising stream for a popular subreddit, and this did the opposite of that. Reddit admins soon after basically said "remove nsfw content, restore the subreddit to what it used to be, do what we say or we'll replace you with a mod team of our own choosing".

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

A friend and I were recently discussing how spineless modern boycotts are.

We set a goddamn deadline for when the Reddit boycott ended. No wonder Spez just waited. Most people then just continued using the website. What a disgrace.

Imagine if after one week of the genocide in Gaza, the BDS efforts just stopped. A boycott must be indefinite. It should go on until demands are met.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

so many leaders are forgetting what the point of protests is. yes, protests are annoying if you're a leader. but they're better than the alternative. that's the whole point.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

They're better than the OLD alternative, which was total boycotting at best, and torches and pitchforks at worst. The NEW alternative is complaining about it for a week or two, then continuing on without making any changes at all. They don't mind the new alternative.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

More hilarity: as of about a week ago, it appears the reddit algorithm has also started boosting posts with negative karma on their horrible mobile app. Guessing it's a move towards 'negative engagement'. I have not seen it myself (I don't use the reddit app) but I see users complaining about it.

https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/1frcdxs/it_looks_like_reddit_is_currently_trying_new_ways/

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Stop using Reddit, problem solved

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (15 children)

(Copied from the thread on /c/Quark's)

I quit as the top mod of /r/StarTrek in 2021 in protest against Reddit's platforming of vaccine disinformation subreddits. Then in 2023 during the API protest, myself and several of the remaining mods (including mods from /r/Risa and /r/DaystromInstitute) started StarTrek.website.

The consensus I've seen on Lemmy has been largely "we don't need to spread the word about our open platforms because Reddit will do something stupid again and there will be another protest and Lemmy will be promoted there". So I hope we can take this as a lesson that we can't rely on platforms being shitty in order to switch society over to open standards. We need to do our best to make Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed good as well as known.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It just occurred to me that convincing someone of leaving a social media site is a lot like convincing someone to leave a big city.

They have friends there and have grown accustomed to the vibrant and diverse activities, but realistically nothing they do or have there can't be replicated in a smaller town, a smaller media site.

They're liable to put up with a lot of shit to stay with their community, but eventually people get pushed out and find greener pastures and a quiet space for themselves elsewhere. At least, that's what I attribute to what I perceive to be a higher average age on the fediverse.

I'm too old to find the constant stimulation and activity attractive anymore, and I much prefer the freedom to move around and be choosy about my media choices.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Go_JasonWaterfalls on the platform, writes in a post on r/modnews. “We have a responsibility to protect Reddit and ensure its long-term health, and we cannot allow actions that deliberately cause harm.”

You mean like killing all third-party apps and selling user-data to AI companies? That kind of harm? Oh no, you meant "harm" to your personal finance.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

...we cannot allow actions that deliberately cause harm

Seems like that's about the only actions Reddit execs have taken over the last several years. Glad I left when I did.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago

My account was banned because I kept reporting people and it was easier to get rid of the complainer than it was all the bigots she was complaining about... but... now I feel very "You can't fire me, I quit" about it

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But the protests made it clear that letting moderators make their communities private at their discretion “could be used to harm Reddit at scale” and that work on this feature was “accelerated” because of the protests.

Because Reddit admins deserved that harm. We've handed them all this free data and resource and they decided it was theirs.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is that the site we all left cuz it’s a turd? Yeah? Don’t care. It’s called principle.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm out of the loop on Reddit, but I was beyond a power user on there two years ago. Back then, if every human user on the site stopped using the site, the admins would not have noticed any difference because nearly every post was bot networks reposting old top posts and filling the comments with the exact comments from the last time it got upvoted.

Garbage website. I miss it for what it was capable of for a while there.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Reddit is one of the most infiltrated and astroturfed site. I have absolutely no confidence that the leadership are interested in addressing that. When there were suspicions it was anti-US actors, they had to take action because the government would get involved. But we all know that such pressure doesn't exist for other astroturfing actors, state and private.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

I'm not surprised. I'm on this site because I'm sick of being banned on reddit for thinking wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago

fuck u/spez

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago

There are many valid reasons outside of a sitewide protest for a subreddit to go from public to private, so Reddit doing this is a scummy move on more than just one level. Just one more reason why free alternatives like lemmy are superior.

[–] alphapuggle 46 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

“While we are making this change to ensure users’ expectations regarding a community’s access do not suddenly change, protest is allowed on Reddit,” writes Nestler. “We want to hear from you when you think Reddit is making decisions that are not in your communities’ best interests. But if a protest crosses the line into harming redditors and Reddit, we’ll step in.”

Yall have very clearly demonstrated that you do not care about the communities best interest, and you have no interest in hearing what we think. Fuck Spez and good riddance to reddit

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

At this point I'm more or less done with Reddit. My latest ban was because I posted a screenshot of an ad with a wacky old person comment to r/oldpeoplefacebook. I carefully smudged out the person's name and profile pic...and got a three-day site-wide ban for sharing personal information. I protested, they said, nope, you shared personal information. All I can figure is they decided the advertiser's name is personal info, which would make it even more bizarre because I'd say about half the posts have group or advertiser names unedited.

People they let mod, can end up getting this really bizarre God complex not dissimilar to what you see in university settings, their word goes, questioning their word is a sin and they'll just double down.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

May I be blunt? I don't think that anyone still moderating Reddit has a shred of dignity, decency, or concern about their userbase. As such this shit will pass and nobody there will care.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

The other option is for all the mods to quit. AI can probably do a lot of basic tasks, but without mods they wouldn't have a site pretty quickly.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Moderators will now have to submit a request if they want to switch their subreddit from public to private.

But do they have to submit a request if they tell the audience "fuck it, this is now a sub about X, we'll remove everything that's not about X"?

...In fact, fuck any particular topic - if the mods approve of it, every subreddit can actually be about whatever people think it should be about, now that we think about it. If the mods don't do it, will the admins do it? The answer is: Highly unlikely

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I soft quit Reddit last year and deleted all my profile’s comments and posts. I only kept it around because I had heard Reddit was restoring deleted posts and I wanted to make sure mine were gone for good. After several months I stopped checking.

This article made me finally pull the trigger and go in to delete my account. Surprise surprise, two pages of old comments had been restored.

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