this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2024
322 points (96.5% liked)

Showerthoughts

29793 readers
776 users here now

A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. A showerthought should offer a unique perspective on an ordinary part of life.

Rules

  1. All posts must be showerthoughts
  2. The entire showerthought must be in the title
  3. Avoid politics
    • 3.1) NEW RULE as of 5 Nov 2024, trying it out
    • 3.2) Political posts often end up being circle jerks (not offering unique perspective) or enflaming (too much work for mods).
    • 3.3) Try c/politicaldiscussion, volunteer as a mod here, or start your own community.
  4. Posts must be original/unique
  5. Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
all 48 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In Sweden a TV news station exposed a troll farm run by the far right party. I'd say that counts.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

In Norway, NRK started a misinformation campaign in a local school to influence the school election to show how easy it was.

It was not well received

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There was a lot of talk about it in the news, and the right wing party did distance itself from some of the elements of the operation. Mostly they played the fake news card though, and essentially claimed that the deep state was against them - ~~because the investigation came from the Swedish state media company~~.

They also had a lackluster election result (EU elections) right after, but who knows how much impact this thing had, if any.

Anyway, basically all of them are still in their jobs and they are actively taking a shit down the throats of the Swedish population, as they are currently in the majority block of the government and can as such get a lot of their politics through.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just one note: it was Kalla Fakta on TV4, not state media. If it was, it would probably have been shutdown by their orders to the spineless governemnt the next week.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Ah shit, my bad. Will update my comment.

I believe they whined about something about the deep state being against them though, so I guess I connected the dots where no connection existed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Nothing. Liberals and Conservatives still stand by them. Just maybe do they not do it to the same degree anymore. One of the things they did was to try and increase support for a conspiracy theory that is exists among a few immigrants in Sweden; that swedish goverment agencies kidnap their babies. I think in the exposé they did show that wanted to do this so that these conspiracy theorists would take action, because that would increase support for the far right. No issue for the other parties apparently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I have no idea but the usual playbook would be:

One bad apple resigns in disgrace. Bot farm closed. Start new bot farm.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)

There is/was a show about Russian spies living in America as Americans though. I watched a few episodes when it came out but it wasn't my kinda thing.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Its called FOX news. Would not recommend.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

ZING!

....guys, remember zing? We used to say zing in the 90s! Remember that? Guys? GUYS!!!

..........^^^^^guys?

Edit: Welp....guess I can't make small text on Lemmy like I could on reddit. The context here is like you're hearing me as you're walking away from a dork saying dork things.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Come on grampa, let's get you home

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Ned Ryerson?

[–] MrCamel999 4 points 2 months ago

The small text renders fine for me on Eternity for Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I STILL have no idea how to read your username....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Kolanaki

It's a combination of my dog's names, Kona and Loki; but then I mistyped it when I made my account (it should have been KolOnaki, but whatevs). o7

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You also forgot the first o, kl_O_naki.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

It was called The Americans and had an amazing 80s soundtrack to go with it. That show was awesome.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

The Americans was partially based on real life. We literally traded Russian sleeper agents back in 2010.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The Americans is one of the best shows ever made.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

A drama like right now about Russians trying to influence world politics? And US elections? I'm not sure if it would be brilliant and we'd be all over it or if we're so sick of hearing about it that we wouldn't watch it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I was thinking Chris Hansen style reverse cat fishing.

Edit: "UwU I'm 35 y/o incel. Won't someone come to my chat room and propagandize me UwU."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

No pun intended, catfishing had had a hook. You had someone that had wrapped up their lives and or a serious amount of money into someone there was an emotional angle. Most of the trolls don't really have any belief in what they're saying and it most their drawing people out to fight with them. Definitely a shower thought.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

A drama with the Russians would probably only last a week, maybe a month?. Add in China, Iran, and most importantly the US, and you would've got few season to watch.

I'm not sure if it would be brilliant and we'd be all over it or if we're so sick of hearing about it that we wouldn't watch it

Too bad, but the rest of the world would love to see it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

How about a Silicon Valley-like comedy except at a Russian troll farm.

"Fuck you, Guilfoylevich!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not right now, but a couple of years ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

In 20 years, Trump the movie.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

[off topic?]

"Lioness" with Zoe Saldana and Nicole Kidman is a weird combination of spec ops porn and Left politics.

"Lioness" refers to a CIA program to target the wives/sisters/daughters of major terrorists. Kidman runs Saldana who in turn runs the teams on the ground. Their latest target is top financier of terror and his daughter is getting married soon...

In one episode Kidman tells Saldana that the West's leaders are too stupid and cowardly to get us off the oil habit.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13111078/

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I think "Homeland" had a plotline with online misinformation farms at some point. That's all I can think of

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I remember reading about digital warfare and how the character of different weaponry can be stabilising or destabilising.

So the example given was nuclear weapons. The consequences of using them are so disastrous that there is no good use case, and so they tend to be stabilising. They discourage use.

Digital warfare is destabilising, because it's very easy to do and very hard to catch, so you're better off using it, even without any declared war.

Information warfare is probably very similar, it encourages use, but that's because it's very low-stakes. It wouldn't be very exciting. I imagine it'd make a better comedy than a drama.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The oligarchy run media are very much part of the problem so looking to them for solutions is pointless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s not TV’s responsibility to teach.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not asking to be educated. I'm demanding to be entertained!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

with power comes responsibility

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More spiderman it is!

Alright people, we're making 5 new Spider-Man films, let's get to work!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

All reboots of the origin story. Need to watch uncle Ben die 5 more times.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I agree. "Q: Into the Storm" is the only thing that addresses part of it (that I'm aware of).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Didn't South Park do something like this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Mr Robot kinda fits with China being the big baddie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

That show would be boring.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The Americans was 5 (I think) glorious seasons of undercover KGB agents in the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well... The boys is actually pretty close. Evil corporation lying to the public and with uncle Sam's support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think I saw that episode of night court guest starting Yakov Smirnoff