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you know -- this is always represented in the news/etc as 'a starbucks a day' but i mean moreso a gadget or a shirt. i'm splurging on deodorant right now. is that immoral? are you meant to have a mostly austere budget until you're a boomer with a house and a fence?

so uhh what's the last little thing you bought to not go insane?

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 71 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

ima be real chief it ain't gonna fuckin matter if I go spend $30 or not on an electronic gadget once in a while, the chances of me landing in home ownership are still gonna be 0.0%. fuck it we ball, i might as well have toys to play with that makes the tism happy

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You know it's kind of funny in a way that people keep telling us to cut out all unnecessary spending to make it further than just paycheck to paycheck instead of just raising wages so we can afford those little things.
But I don't think they take into account that our economy is almost entirely supported by our endless consumerism.
If we take their advice and stop buying ourselves little treats and toys the whole economy collapses, it's completely unsustainable without them nickel and diming us to death yet they refuse to give us even pennies.
I honestly wonder what their backup plan is when they eventually do get all the money and there's none left for us to give them anymore.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I saw a job today that I fit the criteria for and pays around double what I currently earn. Out of interest I though I'd look at what house I could afford on that salary in my area.

The answer is none. I can afford no houses in my area even on double what I earn in a quite high up management position.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think they have a backup plan, everything is going according to their active plan. You could almost consider this like micro-colonization: the wealthy step on the toes of the working folk, lie to the workers into thinking colonization is good, drain resources and human willpower, then throw them in a ditch after they realize their home was stolen from them. Ask the Native Americans, Aboriginals of Australia, or almost every single African country to ever have existed.

TL;DR - We'll probably be displaced to neat little patches of land where were are out-of-sight, out-of-mind.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I am fully disconnected from that mentality and do not miss it. I used to waste a lot of time around shopping for needless and pointless nonsense.

I will spend a whole lot more on things I really need or want, but I don't feel like I am a target for marketing in any way now. My last major purchase was an AI capable computer which was likely due to YT and Reddit manipulated suggestions and visibility. I don't regret that one. Since I quit reddit in June, I have also pulled way back with YT. I'm on Linux/Graphene and my primary network connection is though a whitelist firewall. That seems to be just enough to stop the subconscious motivations and desires for stuff I don't actually care anything about like this.

It may be an unpopular opinion, but the best and brightest psych majors are going into advertising for a damn good reason, and it ain't making prettier HTML banner ads like it's 1999.

I recommend having a long think about that whole buying little things makes an emotion paradigm and start asking yourself what could be the causes of such behaviors and how they might have been intentional manipulation across platforms and information spaces. There is a reason why data stalking companies are so pervasive and everyone wants you to use an app where they have constant sensor data from your device.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That was an excellent thing to start my day with - cheers. I'm probably more like OP, but I like this perspective and am trying to move towards it. One habit that has helped is swapping phone time for book time. Even if there is still some phone time, any book time is a win: I learn stuff from sources I can trust, and there are no ads.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Exactly. Buying gives you a small dopamine bump, but it doesn't last very long. The downside is that you spent money that could be better used elsewhere, got another trinket to crowd you out of your house, and probably distracts you from healthier or more fulfilling activities.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I once read

we as a society work 40+ hours a week . Spend little to no time doing the things we love. It's a struggle every day. And because we are in this constant state of "grind" we shop for items that give us temporary happiness.

We are meat in a meat grinding machine from early age to nearly death. No one consented to it... It just is. So spend that $5 or that $1500 on something that gives you happiness. Because at the end of it all.. it's the ride that matters not where you end up.

It also needs to be said... We are a culture of consumerism. We all must buy and buy and buy to keep the economy afloat. So the game has been rigged to make you want to spend.

Good luck op

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Looks at my $1500 3d printer.

How you just gonna call me out on a personal level in public like that?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Budgeting won't get you a house. Earning an unusually high amount of money (and that amount keeps growing) gets you a house eventually, if you still budget when you get that income.

The way I learned it is, most people who make a budget forget the value of fun. Make sure your bills are covered, save what you can, and also set aside some money for fun.

Paying a streaming service subscription, buying a little something to eat or drink when meeting with friends, buying fun gadgets you can enjoy, and buying hobby supplies would all be worthwhile uses of money set aside for fun.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Last year I got really into freshwater aquarium keeping as a hobby. So I find myself buying little plants, decor, tools, etc for my aquariums (of which I have 5 now...). It's fun, a bit expensive but it's therapeutic.

I also smoke hella weed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I also smoke hella weed.

this is the way

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We have a 38~ gal with live-bearers (Platys and Mollys), a few skunk Cory's and a pleco.

A 20 gal with a Betta, white-gold mountain minnows, panda Cory's, and a pleco.

A 55 gal that's pretty new, has ghost shrimp, fish tbd (we're thinking angelfish and some larger schooling fish).

A 3 gal with a betta.

And finally a 4 gal, fish tbd (working on a low tech nano, was thinking chili rasbora)

Anyone know if there's an aquarium community on Lemmy yet? edit: yes, there is!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

You may already know this, but don't smoke near your aquariums. I used to work in a high end fish shop and smoking was such an issue for customers. Vaping is even worse.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, I hate buying things. It literally feels bad, and I put it off as long as I can or group it together so I can get it over with all at once.

I'm more-or-less inured to grocery shopping, and do it every other day, but it's easier to think of it as "restocking" rather than "shopping". No decisions to make, I know in advance what things cost, and so on.

But buying something I haven't bought before, or at a store I haven't been to before? Torture.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I thought I was the only one. I dread spending money, I feel worse every time I do it. So usually I only buy something if the previous thing that I had broke down. I also never buy food outside of groceries. I wear clothes until they turn to rags too lol. There are a couple of exceptions such as audio books (audible sub), PC upgrades (once every 6-7 years) and Steam games (on sales only), but those are just the only things that I find truly worthwhile.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

We only have so much time on this earth. Why not enjoy the little things? Even if technically it's garbage. The important thing is to just not go too wild with it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ukuleles and stuff from the Aldi middle aisle

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

I bought an Adventure is Nigh t-shirt. I'm 53 and staring down decline, decrepitude, and a dystopian present, let alone future. I've just now in 2024 fully recovered from the 2008 downturn. Fuck it, I'm getting a t-shirt.

Hope your Friday night is treating you right. ✌️

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Sure. Small random grocery store things like stroopwafel or pears

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Consumerism has replaced community. Instead of visiting a friend I go for a walk alone, but I live in a city so the only place to walk is among the stores. And the walk feels meaningless if I don't buy something.

I have many sweaters. But maybe I could go buy another sweater.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

Plants, more plants! Preferably trees, endemic or edible that I can't fit on my property but guerilla garden into my local area.

Also, the occasional coffee.

[–] Lmaydev 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you're worried the best thing to do is make a proper budget. Make sure every penny you earn is accounted for in there.

Give yourself a certain amount in the budget to buy random stuff each month. Let it roll over each month so if you don't spend it all you have more next month.

Removes any guilt as you know everything is covered.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Yes. I have a separate paypal account i use for for some micro jobs I do (think r/beermoney) and that account is my "fun money". I buy things on steam sales, amazon, ebay with that balance and dont think twice. Its usually around $20-30 per week. If I have an exceptionally good week microtasking (which normally means I had a slow week in my regular jobs) I'll move some money to my normal account rather than blow it on toys.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I do it particularly when I'm having a life period where I'm feeling stuck or stagnant. Essentially become a consumer whore as a coping mechanism.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Of course. If this is what reinforces other positive behaviors keep it up. I keep myself on a contract for larger items. (For every month I complete 100 study hours and meet my work hours, I get a pair of converse) :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How many pairs of converse do you have lol?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

None, he's a terrible student.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I buy random things way more than I should. Always seems like a good idea at the time, even when 90% of these splurges ends up being something I definitely didn’t need. Alas, the dopamine hits from painstakingly researching and identifying the perfect, useless item are all too real. Bought a three pack (it was a crazy discount to buy in a pack of 3) of 6 outlet, low-profile plug, surge protectors.

Outlets in my house are somehow always on walls where I need something pushed against them. Anywho, you should not beat yourself up over some deodorant, is all I’m getting at.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Buying stuff makes me feel sooo guilty, so no for me. But I know most people do that

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

No I try to only buy what I need and look for long term value in purchases. I do spend on experiences such as traveling as I find it rewarding.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Little things, not so much. But when it comes to hobbies, especially ones that get me moving and exercising, I feel perfectly fine spending money on something that will make me feel better.

For example, lately I've been considering getting a road bike again even though I already have a gravel bike (that I plan to keep).

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I tend to have unfortunately expensive hobbies... Photography, cars and other forms of offroad vehicles, etc. So I don't usually spend money on small things that aren't necessities.

I am getting into motorcycle riding, which gear itself is rather expensive if you want to not be grated cheese, plus the bike, training, etc. So that's my expensive purchase this year.

My hobbies tend to keep me out of the house, so I guess in a way this helps keep me from going insane.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A gadget or a shirt are practical things. I'll buy those things and not think about it at all. Especially if I need the gadget or a new shirt. But there's a bunch of crap I do not need that tempts me. Junk I know will be fun for all of 5 minutes before it ends up in a drawer or my closet. I've managed to stop myself wasting money on stuff like that, but there's still that moment of "oh shit that's cool I should get one" before giving it further thought.

Even games and entertainment devices are practical things. But if you're buying like 20 PS5's you might have a problem.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, I always try to improve my everyday carry a little bit here and there… a better wallet, a nice compact pen, a little gadget that fits in my pocket, a pocket knife, etc. I try to carry as much as I can without carrying an extra pouch or bag or feeling like my pockets are stuffed and bulging, so I really prioritize small functional things that fit in my wallet or on my keychain. If I’m feeling spendy, I usually go for that and can find something for ~$30 bucks. Then I get to be excited for it to arrive in the mail.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I like buying and owning some stuff, sure, but not being able to do so doesn't not make me go/feel insane.

Sometimes guilt creeps in but then I remember I am allowed to own and enjoy things that have no other purpose than to be enjoyed. I don't come from money, lived a very frugal life with my parents and while I went to private school all the way through college it was through scholarships and what not.

So maybe I am justifying myself, which is fine too, but now that I can have a bit of extra change and not be a starving student I know there are some stuff that I am willing to buy for whatever reason. This will not make me poorer or richer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No way, I very rarely buy junk that I don't need. Spending money makes me feel bad. I just buy what I need. If it's something I REALLY want, then the pleasure of getting that thing might offset the unpleasantness of spending money, but it's a calculated decision. For example I might buy 2 or 3 video games per year to help keep me entertained, but I won't blow my money on tons of games I'll never play during sales. If I see something in a store and think it looks cool or useful, I'll normally just go home and think about it. I will usually decide that it's just junk that I don't need or want. If I really do want it, it will still be there later.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shiney 3d printer filament. I keep stock of a typical ROYGBV, brown, black, white... But then shiney cyan goes on sale for 25% off. I don't need it but, you know, it's pretty and on sale.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Looks at the storage totes full of filament in my laundry room.

Nope. No idea what you’re talking about. Never done that. No siree Bob. What kind of monster…

OK fine I admit it stop with all these accusations.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I buy as little as possible in terms of I try to buy only what I need but I will always spend more for better quality or a better product within reason. Convenience food is just that, I buy it based on time being short.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don't buy things just for buyings sake, but things I actually enjoy. Look, we can all die at any moment. There can be an accident or so. It's important to enjoy life. If you just save all your money and don't enjoy some of it and you die unexpectedly, saving it was a huge waste. You would have held back for nothing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Good little consumer, happyness comes from owning crap.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

You'll probably never have a house. Better rip that bandaid off quick. Lol

I buy things occasionally, yes. I've been trying to prioritize though, and also have been really focusing on dealing with my old stuff too. I've basically made a self-imposed rule of selling/donating/reimplementing the old things, which allows me to better focus on the new things and not feel so bad about it. Being materialistically responsible is something I wished I'd learned earlier in life. I've still got a long way to go, but the progress I've made has helped tremendously.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

A Jellycat Dexter. So adorable but silly expensive for a cuddly thing (I was rewarding myself after having to go into hospital for an invasive test).

When I was growing up, if I wanted anything it was, "do you need it?". This was drilled into me so much I feel a bit guilty for buying random things even though I can afford them, and I always think long and hard about purchases very rarely buying anything on impulse. Usually I see something and have to go back (weeks) later to buy it after it has been playing on my mind.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

That's colloquially referred to as retail therapy. I don't think occasionally indulging in it is bad as long as you're cognizant of its purpose as a coping mechanism and understand the relief/pleasure it provides probably isn't going to be long-lasting.

In my family, all impulse purchases had to be "justified" with whatever flimsy reasoning was necessary. I don't think that's any better and if it's not coming at the expense of things you actually need, it's good to be able to decide you want something just because you do. Otherwise you can start going down the path of, "Do I really need cheese on this burger? Do I really need variety in my food? Do I really need to be eating three times a day?"

Life should be lived, just don't lose sight of the big picture of course. Also, I'm sure other people around you approve of your buying deodorant :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Last thing? Well, it's driving me insane.
I ordered this CD: https://www.discogs.com/release/14937649-Shostakovich-Royal-Concertgebouw-Orchestra-Riccardo-Chailly-The-Jazz-Album

But PayPal keeps rejecting my card after I confirm 3D secure in my banking app with "Your bank couldn't verify your card...". I tried guest payment option under "PayPal" payment which did briefly show up even for my region. "To complete this purchase, use another way to pay or check this account at the card issuer before retrying it."
So I contacted Discogs support, described my issue, and whoever at their ZenDesk just copy-pasted the answer to where the checkout button is. I responded with a screenshot of the error, and got no response.
Just to make sure it's not on my side, I tried donating some money to Linux Mint, also via PayPal. Guess what, that worked

It's been 2 days now, and I am still unable to pay. So instead of some nice little thing, it's just yet another issue.
It's not the first time though. I am done with Discogs. Even some sellers are now leaving due to excessive fees and lack of support. For me it's their shitty decision to rely on PayPal.

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