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Most of those things mentioned aren’t bona fide needs for me. Once a developer is deploying their project, they’re watching it go through the pipeline so they can quickly respond to issues and validate that everything in production looks good before they switch contexts to something else.

I see what you’re saying though, depending on what exactly is being deployed, the policies of your organization, and maybe expectations that developers are working in another context once they kick off a deployment, it could be necessary to have alerting like that. In that case it may be wise to flex some features of your CICD platform (or build a more robust script for deployment that can handle error alerting, which may or may not be worth it).

Real talk- I agree with this meme as truth.

The more and more I use CICD tools, the more I see value in scripting out my deployment with shell scripts and Dockerfiles that can be run anywhere, to include within a CICD tool.

This way, the CICD tool is merely a launch point for the aforementioned deployment scripts, and its only other responsibility is injecting deployment tokens and credentials into the scripts as necessary.

Anyone else in the same boat as me?

I’d be curious to hear about projects where my approach would not work, if anyone is willing to share!

Edit: In no way does my approach to deployment reduce my appreciation for the efforts required to make a CICD pipeline happen. I’m just saying that in my experience, I don’t find most CICD platforms’ features to be necessary.

This was oddly specific 🤔

Unlike data scientists — and inspired by our more mature parent, software engineering — data engineers build tools, infrastructure, frameworks, and services.

Just a comment on this note: At my company, I started changing our job posting titles from “Data Engineer” to “Software Engineer, Data.” “Data Engineer” is such a loose title which seems to change definition from company to company. I found that those “data engineer” postings attract lots of applicants who know enough SQL to be dangerous and programming wise- didn’t know much beyond making a “hello world” or a calculator in a single Python script. Software “best practices” and design principles were no where to be found. Those applicants were more “data analytics engineers” than “developers.”

Once job titles changed to “software” engineering, we got the engineers we were looking for.

Okay, I see what you’re saying and I concur. Thanks for the clarifying comment! 🫡

Holy smokes, working from home is not a “raise.” You should be compensated for the value you bring, not where you’re sitting when you bring value.

Think about this: Why are there so many automobiles? And why are so many new models still being made? I would think you would try to perfect what you have instead of making new ones all the time. I understand you need new automobiles sometimes, like construction equipment trucks or some treaded military tanks. But for average daily driver you would think there would be some kind of universal automobile. I drive a Corolla btw. I like automobiles. But was just wondering.

I’m not here to mock you, just providing an analogy. You can deliver just about anything in one language that you can with another. However, like the car, you might need a different type if you want more performance. Maybe you want a fast car. High performance cars often need a lot of attention, they need that premium gas, the mechanics demand higher pay! What if you only care about getting from point A to point B, and you’re more concerned with driving a car that’s cheaper to maintain, maybe there are just more car mechanics for that type of car, and the cost to pay them is cheaper.

A C application that is very well tuned to manage memory and threads in the name of perfect performance will require more time and computer science knowledge to create when compared to a Python script that does the same thing, but in the most basic possible way running on a single CPU, running hundreds of time slower.

Sometimes you need the performance, and often you don’t. Sometimes you need a treaded tank, sometimes you need a NASCAR, and most days the Corolla does just fine, it’ll even let you miss a few oil changes before things get bad.

As to why we don’t perfect what we have now instead of creating more: technology changes, easier to work with abstractions come about, some people enjoy the hobby of creating a language, or maybe a niche language comes about with very specific trade offs for a very specific purpose, no one wants to break backwards compatibility by adding new features and syntax to their language - I’m sure there’s tons more reasons to list.

While they do rely on COBOL and old mainframes a great deal, that isn’t the only software supporting the company and its operations. That fact doesn’t negate what I’m speculating would be the cause.

These big banks have multiple programming teams that use different programming languages and work on different products.

If you go to their careers page, you will find tons of Java, .NET, and Python jobs posted. I’ve never seen a COBOL posting at a big bank (which doesn’t mean it’s never happened, but I can see any of these more modern languages posted any given day).

I’m willing to bet a team of untrained, uneducated, software/data engineers receiving big salaries are responsible for this.

It’s my understanding that big brand banks live on top of brittle, low quality, poorly tested code- and that’s if they’re not straight up using excel to run production processes.

As of this last month, Lemmy is my new “go to” for scrolling social media. My Reddit usage is probably 20% or less of what it used to be.

A part of this was Voyager’s Progressive Web App (https://vger.app), it made me feel right at home after Apollo shut down.

🎶 Anything that brain of yours can think of can be found 🎵

I see what you're saying. Hmm. I do think that clear will be a nice addition. It does exactly what it says it'll do, "clear" out the object. In that same vein, I think your suggestions would both be solid alternatives.

It sounds like clear is already on track to become a part of the language, but maybe you could be the first to put in a suggestion for a zero to accompany it in future releases?