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Just a little rant. When I first visited Lemmy Sites a couple of months ago it felt empty. Besides the really mainstream community pretty much everything else just felt empty.

Meanwhile though traffic has increased a lot and I feel well entertained by the traffic in c/hfy c/noncredibledefence c/keepwriting c/worldbuilding and so on. It is certainly less than Reddit but often quality is substancially higher and is "enough" to keep me entertained.

Also I like that you can actually post something without running into a bazillion deletes, bans and moderator shitshat because your post was two words to short, not NCD enough and so on.

Sure, the C64 community on Lemmy is laughable. So is the ARMA community. I still use REddit for that. Also I often check up stuff on r/hfy and r/NCD but since one week I have been prefering Lemmy for that.

Also my longer posts don't get eaten up any more. God, three weeks ago most posts with 3k an more just got lost without feed back. Nowadays I have even manges posts around 20k without breaking them up. Though the editor is still lacking for longer posts. On Reddit I can copy-paste pretty much anything from Libreoffice into Reddits Editor (which is also pretty lacking but differently lacking). On Lemmy I have to run most text through a little perl script to get them even using correct line breaks perl -pe 's/\n/\n\n/' and different sizes for Headlines are much to few to select from.

Not perfect, not even very good but definitely promising.

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[–] [email protected] 282 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Slowly? Lemmy is easily as entertaining as Reddit and it is just getting going.

[–] [email protected] 201 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think people really understand that reddit is an 18 year old product. Their original site was iterated on for 10 years before they stopped building on it.

Lemmy will get there and beyond. As the fediverse attracts more users, it will also attract more contributors. I'm starting to learn Rust myself in hopes I can contribute to the project at some point down the line.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Yeah Reddit 10 years ago was very different than Reddit now. Too many people demand* a 1 for 1 replacement right now.

*You don't even need all those people. It was plenty good 10 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I was on reddit before the digg exodus, and the current state of lemmy feels somewhat reminiscent of those times. When communities are smaller there is just a completely different feel than the 1 million+ subscriber goliaths some subreddits became.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's exactly what it feels like. It's so refreshing and I like the fact I can scroll for about 30 mins, exhaust my feed and step away. I don't get sucked in for most of the day like Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

I have way more fun on Lemmy. I do need some of the more esoteric an vast archived content from reddit from time to time. For that I just google reddit and no longer sign in. Fedi will get there soon enough though.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I’ve been spending a majority of my time on here when I do my “Redditing”. I only visit the old site for niche topics. I spend as little time as possible there, I don’t upvote or downvote anything, and I don’t comment either. It’s read-only for me out of principle. I save all interactions for the fediverse.

I doubt all the communities will rebuild elsewhere, but I’m okay with that. Some fragmentation is necessary. Smaller communities make individual voices louder, and you have less ugly “sidedness”. When humans get into a critical mass IRL they can start to do strange things, I think we see this in social media as well.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Lol yeah, you guy's should have been here 2y ago, this place is jumping now!

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Please for anyone reading, just be patient. Keep posting and commenting and it WILL grow. There are only like 1.2 million Lemmy users versus hundreds of millions of redditors.

If you follow the 90-9-1 rule, that leaves very few actual contributors and still Lemmy has a lot of good content daily. Just be patient and it will come.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think its 90% of users lurk, 9% comment, and only 1% create new posts. Or at least something like that

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ah, that makes sense. In my case though, I used to never post on Reddit but on Lemmy I feel good contributing to this community. I hope a lot of the other Reddit refugees who lurked feel the same way

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I stopped posting to Reddit because frankly it felt like throwing a pebble into the ocean.

I love the smaller approach here

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My posts will get no engagement, negative engagement, and very rarely do I get upvotes. Here in lemmy, there's lots of quality posts and nice people who engage with my posts.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can insult you, down vote your post, then say something confidently stupid before refusing to engage with this thread ever again if it makes you more at home.

Actually, that sounds like a lot of effort; best to leave that on Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Maybe someone here already said this but if you find a community with not a lot of traffic here, make sure to post in it. Others might go looking for it and find nothing, just like you did. Perpetual cycle of I see nothing, I leave. If someone's active, maybe someone else will be active with you. And then two turns to four to 8 and so on. Even if it feels like you're screaming into the void, keep screaming. The void is infinite and someone's bound to hear you eventually.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I don't understand the "slowly" part at all. I joined Lemmy about a month ago when Reddit third party apps went dark. Lemmy was largely a ghost town then, with most of the relatively mainstream communities I sought out having newest posts that were days or even weeks old. That desolation was gone after the first few days, with a ton more engagement from others who migrated over and a steady stream of new content. The communities I frequent have grown by leaps and bounds since then. "Slow" isn't a word I'd use to describe Lemmy's growth.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yep, Lemmy is more active than tildes at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Just joined after sync for lemmy has been released to the public. As a sync user since it started a decade ago lemmy already feels more familiar to me than reddit. I don't quite understand exactly how it all works just yet but I can definitely see myself using this over reddit.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is much friendlier most of the time, and one of my favorite features is that it's run by individuals.

People have forgotten these days what it means to chat somewhere without a corporation in the middle.

It's such a different and better feeling.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

No need to understand the details really. Just post, comment, and subscribe to communities.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not to sound like a jerk but I don't understand what most people expected. All new sites start slow. Facebook was slow at the beginning. Reddit too. It's not like they had millions of users and subs day one. We have the responsibility to build up this community. We want a site like Reddit but without the u/spez crap. So we better start building it up and complain less. Criticism is ok but saying "it's slower than Reddit" is kinda useless and obvious.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Reddit got a burst of users when digg did stupid shit. Now Reddit's doing stupid shit and...

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy is the new way of life. Reddit is the toxic ex.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Lemmy just needs to stop talking about itself so much. The only reason I still use Reddit is because I find fresher and more varied content there. Lemmy users need to provide more content than just the fact that they are on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol it's a new community. I actually find it interesting to see other people's opinions about it. I don't mind seeing every 15th post being about Lemmy itself. That won't last for more than a few months at most...

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i disagree. Lemmy is quickly getting better.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy feels a lot like hackernews

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

With a bit less bigotry, but otherwise yes.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I reckon after all is said and done, the biggest issue I had with Reddit is that people felt they had to be heard. Like, we just needed to know that you also thought that certain thing (“came here to say this”) or that you are morally superior to everyone else (“oh but I don’t do it that way OP”). It’s 90% of the reason the content on Reddit had deteriorated, because people crave the attention, and thus the imaginary number going up.

Now I’m not saying Lemmy is different. In fact, I fully expect it to go the same way. But right now, there are far fewer people here who just have to give their opinion (I see the irony), and therefore less shit to wade through to get to actually good content.

As an example, look at the top comment on any default sub post on Reddit. It will have heaps and heaps of replies that are just valueless crap. This is what makes Reddit seem “faster” than Lemmy. The reality is that most of it is fluff, most of it is irrelevant to you.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lot of empty communities still. Thinking about posting in writingprompts to try to get something rolling there.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I started up [email protected] and it's basically just me posting. Not really much traction but who knows, maybe it'll get going.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here here, was a RIF user but after the blip, I haven't looked back. More and more ppl are migrating over, and I really enjoy no ads!

I would suggest starting a community if one doesn't appear.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just migrated over from RIF as well, first post! Like the UI so far

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

I'm regularly seeing hundreds of comments on posts now and only a month ago it was rare to see a dozen comments on a post. I really don't need more engagement on a post, that's plenty. Lemmy still needs more users to sustain more niche communities, but in the places that people are it's already great.

[–] CodeBlooded 30 points 1 year ago

As of this last month, Lemmy is my new “go to” for scrolling social media. My Reddit usage is probably 20% or less of what it used to be.

A part of this was Voyager’s Progressive Web App (https://vger.app), it made me feel right at home after Apollo shut down.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Is anyone else having trouble with the "show context" button? When someone replies to you, it only shows what they said. When you click "show context", it.... only shows what they said. The only way to see what you said is to copy their reply and "show rest of comments" and then search for it - that is if it isn't on an instance that hides replies after the second level.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Slowly? Bro for years reddit was mostly pictures of delicious sandwiches.

Lemmy is orders of magnitude better than old reddit.

Reddits deaddit, it just doesn't know it yet.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

haha it's funny i felt the opposite - when i got here at the beginning of the 'exodus' i already felt like Lemmy was a small but thriving little community that i enjoyed much more than reddit.

not sure why some want it to be just like reddit but the fediverse. i don't and i'm glad it's a smaller bunch of people and hope it stays that way.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Best thing is, lemmy is open source. You can submit your feedback and code to the devs.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'm hating all the Reddit spillover commenters that take the internet way too fucking seriously. They were easily the worst part of Reddit.

When I first seeked asylum here, people were being sarcastic in the comments and everyone knew, dark humour was being pushed, and there were no Well Actually Guys around. Now there's a big uptick in petty "discussions", know-it-alls, and those losers that break your comment up gaslit straw man style, to just put words in your mouth to try make you look like an asshole.

I'm hating all the Reddit spillover commenters that take the internet way too fucking seriously.

Says the person ranting about Reddit users destroying Lemmy. Maybe you're part of your own problem.

They were easily the worst part of Reddit.

That would be /u/spez, but okay, bro.

When I first seeked asylum here, people were being sarcastic in the comments and everyone knew, dark humour was being pushed, and there were no Well Actually Guys around.

First of all, it's not your internet. Not everyone is as "intelligent" as you think you are and sarcasm is actually hard to detect in text.

Second of all, not everyone appreciates dark humour because it can be very.offensive, just like using derogatory terms like "Well Actually Guy". If you want people on Lemmy, you need to make it a safe space for all.

Also, your account is only 5 weeks old.

Now there's a big uptick in petty "discussions"

So, now you're just anti-discourse? How is Lemmy meant to grow if comment section are empty, you bigot?

know-it-alls

Again, derogatory.

and those losers that break your comment up gaslit straw man style, to just put words in your mouth to try make you look like an asshole.

Oh, shit.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I haven't went back to reddit since july 3rd... Not even once! I like Lemmy the way it is because I don't scroll for hours anymore and I like that.

Although I wish the comment section was a little more active in general.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Enough of the subreddits I enjoyed are here in some variation, enough so I haven't been to Reddit in weeks. I'm fine with that.

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