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(Graphical) IDE's are great for development, but they're slow to start and heavy to run. Sometimes you just want to take a quick look at an xml or dockerfile and you don't want to spin up the whole IDE for that.

I've recently rediscovered notepad++ for that (on windows), what's your prefered easy-acces-tekst-editor?

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[–] tatterdemalion 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Helix. Instant startup. Minimal configuration required. Has all of the killer features I want from an IDE anyway.

EDIT: I assumed people would just research this anyway, but a more complete list of features I enjoy from Helix:

  • very responsive
  • modal editing
  • declarative configuration file format (TOML, not Lua)
  • language server protocol
  • debug adapter protocol
  • written in Rust so I am more likely to be able to submit a PR if I need to

Some cons (all known issues on github):

  • no plugin API yet
  • inline LSP diagnostics are overly intrusive and can overlap your code
  • cold-starts the LSP when you start the editor, so you might need to wait for symbol queries in a large project
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Helix deserves more love. Blazing fast, sensible defaults, good lsp support, vim-ish bindings. It’s really my perfect editor

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's such a cool editor, but after decades of Vim motor memory I just can't seem to wrap my head around the cursor / selection changes. I really wish there was an option to just make selection work like Vim.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You make a good case. I'll check it out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For anyone trying it out for the first time: If you aren't sure how to do something, it's probably hitting the spacebar in normal mode. That will bring up a list of shortcuts, including the debugging, file chooser, and actions (for the lip)

[–] tatterdemalion 2 points 1 year ago

There is also a pretty good interactive tutorial. Just run the :tutor command.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

vim. Just basic vim, I don't jazz it up to be all IDE-like. I want my vim to behave exactly like it would if I'm on some random other computer.

If I need autocomplete, ability to jump to the definition of stuff and so forth I use whatever the other people on the project use, which is often vscode these days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

exactly this. If I need to do development, i'll use a jetbrains product. If i'm in a pure text editing situation, I want the most powerful thing for manipulating text, and I want it to be available.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You don't enjoy a plugin like gutentags? You're missing out. Don't let your principles get in the way of your productivity.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't normally point out a spelling mistake but... Why did you spell text like that?

[–] onizuka89 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In some languages tekst is their native word for text. OP seems to at very least know dutch, where that seems to be the case.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Lol yeah, it's a dutchism 😆

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That sounds like the most likely explanation

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Kate, though it gets a bit IDE like.

[–] UndercoverUlrikHD 13 points 1 year ago

Vim if I'm on Linux, notepad++ if I'm on windows. Though I will use VSCode in both OS if want to make a lot of changes and run the file.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Emacs. But honestly, I have no idea what I am doing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'd call that an IDE, but also one that makes using a non-IDE editor superfluous.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As the old (bad) joke goes: Emacs is a great operating system. Shame it lacks a good editor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The biggest irony is it's often told by vim fanboys, who apparently don't realize a very comprehensive emulator of vim it is one of the editors Emacs offers. But mostly it seems to be told by people who don't even know what Emacs is, they just know they're meant to disapprove of it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Neovim for most things. At work I use VSCode for Java stuff

[–] GuybrushThreepwo0d 9 points 1 year ago

Vim for everything

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kate on Linux, Notepad++ on Windows.

Also, Kate on Windows (it's really good)

[–] ShrimpsIsBugs 3 points 1 year ago

Didn't know there's Kate for windows, nice

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

vim on any *nix box, Notepad++ when forced to use Windows.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Vim is cross platform, just in case you don't know

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sublime Text 3 perpetual license. I would move to VSCode as my "quick editor" but I'm not trusting an Electron app, for starters same document in both wastes 3x more RAM and second I can open 10GB SQL dumps in Sublime and perform find and replace operations in VSCode however....

[–] starman 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Helix and Code - OSS sometimes (Code - OSS is an open source vscode distribution)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean vscodium? VS Code is not OSS...

[–] starman 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My own. My Emacs config grew over years to several thousand lines, and it got to a point where I decided I could write an editor in fewer lines that it took to configure Emacs how I liked it. It's ... not for everyone. I'm happy with it, because it does exactly only the things I want it to, and nothing else, but it does also mean getting used to quirks you can't be bothered to fix, and not getting to blame someone else when you run into a bug.

That said, writing your own editor is easier than people think, as long as you leverage libraries for whichever things you don't have a pressing need to customize (e.g. mine is written in Ruby, and I use Rouge for syntax highlighting, and I believe Rouge is more lines of code than the editor itself thanks to all the lexers)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is going to be a boring answer but I use neovim. I do use it as my ide as well but it’s so fast and lightweight that when I need to edit a random config file or something, I just start another instance of it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Geany or (with a lot of reconfiguration) Kate.

Geany is built upon the same text edit control as Notepad++.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Same for me, I even use it on Mac OS X too (which somehow still doesn't ship with a basic text editor).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Helix, Lapce, and/or VSCodium

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

(Neo)vim. Has everything I could ever need.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As often as not, I'm using nano on the command line. It's available in Windows through WSL.

Being honest, WSL makes running Windows so much easier.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kate since VSCode doesn't render correctly on my rig anymore...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I had the problem a week or so ago. I deleted my settings file and it started working again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The GNOME text editor or Nano.

I appreciate Vim, but when I just need to inspect something or change a single line, the former are easier.

As for Neovim and Emacs... I don't have eight hours to set aside monthly to keep them configured and working.

[–] hascat 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been a vim user for over a decade and I doubt I've spent eight hours configuring it in all that time.

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[–] Andy 3 points 1 year ago
  • Sublime Text
  • micro
  • less + highlight/rich-cli/bat
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Neovim and Emacs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Sublime Text 2, for which I have a licence. I'd upgraded to 3 but not for a subscription model.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

KWrite/Kate or Neovim, depends on whether I’m using a graphical interface or terminal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Pulsar, granted it can be ide like and I do contribute to it but I loved atom over any other tool that I've been introduced too by anyone. Sometimes I do use nano tho bc of having some familiarity with the command line but not enough to be fully functional tbh.

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