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[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Google's been garbage for years now, I kind of miss Copernic Pro which is what I used before Google it searched all the search engines available and combined and resorted all the results.

Google was perfect at launch but in recent years it's worse than Yahoo!.

[–] Statick 6 points 5 hours ago

If you're tech savvy, look into selfhosting SearXNG.

I think there are public instances as well.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I stopped using Google at the same time I closed my accounts with Facebook, instagram, Reddit and Amazon. Currently I'm using Ecosia which I think is German. I’m dumping all the US companies I can based on all the Trump crap. It is taking time and effort but I should be able to actually close the Google account soon and I replaced windows with Linux on all but one of my PCs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Ecosia still uses American services though - they use Google, Bing, Yahoo and Wikipedia for search results.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 hours ago (8 children)

Yeah but don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Among other things, they just recently announced that they're starting to build an alternative index with Qwant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 minutes ago

You're right but it's still important to point out in this case since an American index would be subject to any American censorship law. It's better to use Ecosia than Google for sure but we still gotta be aware of the type of bias we're working with.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 hours ago

Everyone whines because it's built on bing but it's fine and respects privacy better than most

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

Same here! Loved the switch to Linux.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 36 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I switched when the answers I got started to become bullshit. I’d google a simple question just to double check if it was correct, but it gave me something completely different. Something so out of the realm of possibility that I was baffled.

I check the sources for the answer and they were not even related. After that I started paying more attention to how messed up google had become, and I had enough.

Google scholar however is still something I need.. even though I dislike American corporations.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

It's kind of unreal that they took something that worked perfectly well for 25 years and then fucked it up entirely overnight, for no good reason.

Stick in bike spokes meme.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They did that to drive up short term ad revenue and it worked, and joy was in their greedy little hearts. They also did figure out that poisoning search results drives away users, and that search is kinda the fastest gateway drug to their entire ecosystem.

But they're stuck. Fixing search would lower their ad revenue, and stock holders would kill them for that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

Also, the way SEO is gamed, it's really hard to unenshittify the internet. It's not just their ads, it's everyone making fake bullshit that pulls the right levers to get to the top of a search.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Why would I google something when the first answer is an inferior AI to chatgpt. I'll just use a better AI.

[–] [email protected] 129 points 15 hours ago (9 children)

I work in an education setting and in the last month, Google started preloading the contents of other sites directly on the search page. It is wreaking havoc when combined with our blocking tools because kids will do a Google search for something innocuous and the page will immediately get blocked because it tried to load a result from Reddit or coursehero or something else we have blocked.

It's incredibly frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Google search has sucked for a couple years now. DuckDuckGo is better for everything except maps.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago

Thats because for some ungodly reason they use Apple Maps. Not sure why they dont integrat with an OpenStreetMaps like service. At least that way users can start contributing to fill the gaps

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 13 hours ago

time to switch to Qwant, ecosia, or duckduckgo

[–] [email protected] 52 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

If you have to stick with google, you can use udm=14. https://tedium.co/2024/05/17/google-web-search-make-default/ You can set it as default search provider.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago

This is available in the UI too - there's a tab labeled "Web". Sometimes it's hiding under "More".

Adding it to the search provider URL is a good idea though.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 13 hours ago (7 children)

Who knew if your product was mostly shit people would stop using it?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Been using Ecosia for up to a year now probably. I like it and I don't need anything else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is Ecosia any good for the privacy-minded folks among us?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's more privacy focussed than Google, but less than others. Personally I use Ecosia at work and Qwant at home.

https://www.ecosia.org/privacy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

For a growing number of users, we can provide search results and ads from Google. For the eligible users, we will provide Google results by default. When your search results and ads are provided by Google, Google will use essential cookies and local storage to help defend against fraudulent traffic. Beyond this, the cookies Google uses will depend on where you are searching from: If you search from the EU, UK or certain US states (for example California), Google will not set additional cookies without your consent. If you search from elsewhere, Google may place additional cookies and the functionality of these cookies will depend on whether you have a Google account

Seems like using Ecosia is about as private as using Google directly.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

These numbers underline the current trend to choose European services instead of American ones, which followed the trend to deGoogle.

[the chart shows stats for American Google, American Bing, Russian Yandex, American Yahoo!, American DuckDuckGo, and Other]

[–] [email protected] 34 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, that statement wasn't supported by the data at all. It seemed to only be included as a way to link to their other articles about European alternatives and de-Googling.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Russian Yandex

Exceptionally good at finding torrent sites and other piracy outlets, because they aren't working hand-in-glove with American broadcasters to censor and shadowban these links. Google, Bing, DDG, and the other American mainline search sites all focus on feeding end-users into a discrete set of Web2 mega-site sponsors. Yandex uses the older web crawlers and indexing tools, so it gives more honest (abet fuzzier and less reliable) results. And since nobody really gives a shit about Yandex, the efforts to game its algorithm have been comparatively minimal.

Yandex also has the benefit of being relatively English-friendly, while other popular non-English search sites like Baidu, Qwant, and Naver don't cater too quite so freely.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I abandoned Google when they started throwing shopping links at the top of every search, even when searching for things that have no relevance to shopping, and they started artificially promoting scams and paid material above actual results.

Google Search was best around 10-15 years ago when their only focus was providing the best results they could (remember when you could actually click the top result and you would be taken to the most applicable page instead of some unrelated ad or scam?). Now their focus is on providing the best product possible for their actual customers (paid advertisers) even when it means trashing their own product in the process.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

15+ years ago you could search for an error code, or an error message, or a part number and actually find it.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 15 hours ago (17 children)

I went long enough without using Google (probably a year-ish) that, when I accidentally made a Google search a few days ago, it was a jarring experience.

It felt wrong the same way other search engines did when I first deGoogled. It was kind of nice actually.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 15 hours ago

I’ve fully switched to ecosia. I much prefer their efforts, and they seem to fund decent projects unlike a lot of other carbon offset companies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 hours ago

I still include Google results in my Searx.

Definitely miss the good ol’ days where it was optimized to give the best results. Same goes for Netflix recommendations back in the the DVD mailer days…

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