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The lead plaintiff in the case, Nyree Hinton, bought a used Model Y with less than 37,000 miles (59,546 km) on the odometer. Within six months, it had pushed past the 50,000-mile (80,467 km) mark, at which point the car's bumper-to-bumper warranty expired. (Like virtually all EVs, Tesla powertrains have a separate warranty that lasts much longer.)

For this six-month period, Hinton says his Model Y odometer gained 13,228 miles (21,288 km). By comparison, averages of his three previous vehicles showed that with the same commute, he was only driving 6,086 miles (9,794 km) per 6 months.

Edit: I just want to point out that I just learned that changing your tires to ones of a different diameter can also affect how your spedometer clocks. So yeah, this issue is full of nuance and plausible things as to why this could not be true.

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[–] zlatko 1 points 23 minutes ago

Well, true, but tyres wouldn't make it a double distance, it's not that simple. The case isn't clear, if course, but the claim says that the odometer tried to reduce the range after it got out of the warranty period.

Not saying anything about the merit of the case, just the the claim itself sounds interesting and that if true, you can't wave it away with "you changed tyres".

[–] [email protected] 59 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Good thing we have the CFPB to register and punish companies for shady practices like th...oh, nevermind.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Or intentionally?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 19 hours ago
odometer += sensor * this_is_just_for_debugging_i_promise(odometer);
[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Wow that's a scummy thing to do. Just like apple I will never buy a Tesla product.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Apple’s odometers are fine.

[–] zlatko 1 points 22 minutes ago

Pedometers, you mean?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You can't change the tire size on a Model Y very much because of the weird suspension design.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 19 hours ago

Plus, to double the mileage registered by using different size tires, you'd have to put a roughly 10" tire on a Model Y.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 day ago

In the past, Tesla lawyers even initiated lawsuits against customers who dared to criticize the quality of their cars or services. Such cases are documented and therefore not fake news. Last week, moreover, DOGE dismantled the department responsible for safety control and approval of new cars entering the market. Tesla experienced too many problems with this department in the past and now, through DOGE, took the opportunity to simply dismantle it. Moral of the story... buy a Tesla, a “safe” decision.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 20 hours ago

Well I'm curious to find out what discovery will show.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (7 children)

A odometer is a smell sensor, no?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 22 hours ago

They don't install those in new cars, you need one made in the ol'factory.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

How silly, it's obvious that would be an odormeter. An odometer is about something else entirely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago
[–] JackbyDev 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago

Let's use the Smelloscope!

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Changing your tire sizing only changes the speedo and odo a few percent. You can usually just ignore it unless you're making drastic changes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah aeems a pretty useless edit for an obvious fact. Especially as in this case you would need tires half the circumference of the original to make sense.. Gotta be some tiny tires..

Edit, had it the wrong way around

[–] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago

Hey Siri how do I convert from inches to circumstance

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (5 children)

That's 70 miles a day, for anyone who doesn't want to do the math. I don't know where Hinton lives, but that's almost two laps around all of the highways surrounding the city I live in. That's 2 hours of driving on surface roads, not including stop lights and stop signs.

I wonder how much money Tesla has saved by breaking the law this way?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

112 km a day, not a bad commute by Toronto standards - it’s one way for the Barrie to Toronto drivers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Sure, but it’s an additional 70 miles. Not something that would go unnoticed.

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[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The speedometer is also predictive.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

From Berlin to Warsaw in one tank.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Is it accurate though? Your mileage may vary.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Add this to the pile of the rest of the illegal things billionaire Musk does simply because he can

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 day ago

"Tesla commits fraud to void warranties."

There FTFY.

[–] [email protected] 278 points 1 day ago (27 children)

It's far more likely that the odometer in Teslas are just poor quality crap like the rest of the car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Even more likely there is a bug ticket in thier system that says some part is malfunctioning causing the odometer to count too fast. And that ticket has been depriortized by product management repeatedly as fixing it generates no increase in revenue.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, it isn't. Tesla's past behavior shows that they would definitely try to do this, because they would make a lot of money. And if the odometers were "randomly" poor quality, why would we only see reports of mileage being mistakenly high? Where are the mistaken low reports? Haven't seen any of those.

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[–] [email protected] 172 points 1 day ago (7 children)

We already know they knowingly lied about battery range, the capabilities of self driving, and a ton of other fraudulent practices. Tesla is doing it intentionally is more likely than poor build quality.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Should be super easy to prove too... Take an assortment of Teslas to a 1 mile stretch of road, drive it up and down 20 times, measure the mileage before and after.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Right, but Tesla has had time to push new code to their cars. So we could get a negative result now and still have past shadiness.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

If the courts cared for the rights of people they would subpoena code routinely

We can't be ruled by black boxes that serve people who hate us. It has to end

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