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[–] [email protected] 7 points 39 minutes ago

Making "smart" devices that can't do routine mundane things without an active internet connection is completely fucking stupid.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Has nobody else pointed out this is clearly not real?

[–] cass80 7 points 1 hour ago

Yeah first thing I did was search the web for more information. Zero results...

I bet most of these other commenters also complain about boomers eating up fake news.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

Home assistant everything is a yaml away

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Okay, I get the idea of smart AC for example - be elsewhere, turn it on remotely so that it's comfortable when you get home. Fine. But a toilet? You are physically present there, you can push a button to flush. Or are you telling me that you're shitting remotely now too?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Hans free means you don't have to touch the handle with dirty hands, but you can do that with a motion sensor too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

We've been ready for pedal activated toilets for decades now

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

you're shitting remotely now too?

Do we tell them about the remote shit technology that just landed from Uranus?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 29 minutes ago

It’s not that great anyway. Your local toilet will surreptitiously grab and analyze your poop, dispose of it so you don’t need to flush, and have the remote toilet extrude an identical copy someone else has to flush.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Wait, so you're not subscribed to shitme™? For a low monthly subscription they send you a sealed, self-addressed and postage-paid container to deposit your feces in, it gets sent to a sorting facility and distributed via drones or delivery drivers directly to your home toilet, where the feces are flushed in the privacy and safety of your own home! The peace-of-mind alone is worth the $39.98 a month. Up until now, the only challenge has been flushing the toilet while you're still at the office, this way you NEVER have to go home!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Shit like a world leader

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 hours ago

And yet I hear dumbshits bragging all time about how alexa controls my (insert thing that definitely does not need automation here).

These sort of people never think beyond tomorrow and it shows.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at and repair.

Douglas Adams

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Adams's law.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

Why would you ever get a toilet that requires anything but the laws of physics to operate?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I can see some purpose in having a 'smart' toilet for monitoring health. Your pee and poo can have some value in seeing if there anything that needs to be dealt with medically. But even that is difficult to do. For one thing, it must still function ad a toilet first before anything. Meaning it uses the simple mechanical flushing and refilling and stopping when it is sufficiently full.

However for this the analysis and storage of data must be 100% at the user's control. If they want it gone. It is gone. Irrecoverable. Any update must be done via USB or other connection. No wifi or internet.

And even then the analysis can be off for obvious reasons. People need to scrub their toilets and some keep it clean by having one of those pucks in the tank that sanitize the water. All of these can interfere with any results out of a medical setting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

You're already @ the mf toilet too, or the sink. what is even the purported purpose of remotely activating something you have to stand there to use?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I mean... Electronics and the Internet are also following the laws of physics. But I get what you mean, levers should be the only activation, and gravity should be the only requirement.

That being said, electronics in our devices do tend to reduce the amount of water and power that appliances use. Dumb devices are extremely inefficient, even though there are fewer points of failure.

It sucks that a 1950's fridge can still function just fine today, but it also is a bigger strain on the power grid, and a leak in the refrigerant would destroy the ozone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

> That being said, electronics in our devices do tend to reduce the amount of water and power that appliances use. Dumb devices are extremely inefficient, even though there are fewer points of failure.

I fail to see how electronics in these (unpowered) devices in any way reduce the amount of power that they use.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

In theory you could have a system that monitors input and then uses a precise amount of water to vacate the bowl.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh sick, a toilet with bowl cameras

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I figure a scale would probably work better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I think that was just a general statement regarding old devices, since they brought up a 1950s refrigerator as an example of a powered "dumb" device

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Sprinklers and all kinds of stuff are more efficient with sensors and electronic regulators

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