How come when rich white guys get handed a bill they have years to decide what to do about it? Like, look at the timeline from when Alex Jones was first ordered to payout to now, it's insanity.
this post was submitted on 01 Apr 2025
188 points (99.0% liked)
Europe
5136 readers
1509 users here now
News and information from Europe 🇪🇺
(Current banner: La Mancha, Spain. Feel free to post submissions for banner images.)
Rules (2024-08-30)
- This is an English-language community. Comments should be in English. Posts can link to non-English news sources when providing a full-text translation in the post description. Automated translations are fine, as long as they don't overly distort the content.
- No links to misinformation or commercial advertising. When you post outdated/historic articles, add the year of publication to the post title. Infographics must include a source and a year of creation; if possible, also provide a link to the source.
- Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. Don't post direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments. Don't troll nor incite hatred. Don't look for novel argumentation strategies at Wikipedia's List of fallacies.
- No bigotry, sexism, racism, antisemitism, dehumanization of minorities, or glorification of National Socialism.
- Be the signal, not the noise: Strive to post insightful comments. Add "/s" when you're being sarcastic (and don't use it to break rule no. 3).
- If you link to paywalled information, please provide also a link to a freely available archived version. Alternatively, try to find a different source.
- Light-hearted content, memes, and posts about your European everyday belong in [email protected]. (They're cool, you should subscribe there too!)
- Don't evade bans. If we notice ban evasion, that will result in a permanent ban for all the accounts we can associate with you.
- No posts linking to speculative reporting about ongoing events with unclear backgrounds. Please wait at least 12 hours. (E.g., do not post breathless reporting on an ongoing terror attack.)
(This list may get expanded when necessary.)
We will use some leeway to decide whether to remove a comment.
If need be, there are also bans: 3 days for lighter offenses, 14 days for bigger offenses, and permanent bans for people who don't show any willingness to participate productively. If we think the ban reason is obvious, we may not specifically write to you.
If you want to protest a removal or ban, feel free to write privately to the mods: @[email protected], @[email protected], or @[email protected].
founded 9 months ago
MODERATORS
Facebook used to be about staying in touch with friends and family now it’s just a cesspool of Russian bots and propaganda….it drowns out your actual friends and family. Get rid of it and replace it with a decentralized platform
It was like that for 10 years already, Zuckerberg saw the money in right wing media/propaganda
No, propaganda like "THIS PLAE IS MOST POEWRFUL PLANE IN WORLD, WILL KILL ALL YOU WESTERN HOMOS AND MAKE WAY FOR PROUD RUSSIAN TO LIVE IN PEACE" and its a pic of an2 from account "usa airforce daily". Basically word for word. It is not subtle and reports do nothing. Not to mention the insane amounts of scam on the marketplace.
He can suck Trumps dick as hard as he wants. He will still have to comply with EU law. He could also just shutdown meta products in the EU. I would be completely fine with that.
It's about time EU fine Meta to oblivion.
If they don't comply with the law they can fuck right off and leave the EU market.
As soon as these shitty tech companies leave, the sooner EU alternatives can rise.
I hope they really get fined hard this time. Unfortunately the "pay to consent" feature is easily removed while the larger problem (though harder to grasp judicially) of election interference, abusing personal data, hateful content, disinformation - remains. And imho we should be looking much harder at X in that regard anyhow.
@deoliveira @zaxvenz Agreed.. E.g. WhatsApp works as a public service and should be regulated as such. The reason for not leaving is a coordination problem. States are good solving such problema.
DMA should open up the ecosystem and stop the monopoly of WhatsApp!
Let’s make WhatsApp and messaging in general a service like email, where you can message/email between messaging/email clients (like I can email from Proton to a Gmail user). Why is it impossible to message from my preferred app to another app user. This is technically very easy, and safe. It just that it would ruin WhatsApp’s empire because it brakes the lock-in.
This would mean the whole Meta universe falls apart, which would be awesome as they do not give a crap about anyone’s privacy or rights. they don’t comply by the law and don’t pay taxes.
Let’s break it open!
XMPP or Matrix.
I think if you were using a very secure messenger, and talking to someone using a very insecure messenger, that could be a problem.
This is the typical response.
Do you have the same concerns when using email clients or when using SMS? ;-) Probably not.
Also, technically this problem is very easily solved by making a note in the app if you are going to send something, or receive something, from a non secure app. Like with email.
However tech platforms do not want to accommodate this because it breaks their monopoly. They rather push the narrative they need to complete lock in of the user to secure comms. It is NOT about security for them, they even sell all your data via the back door 😂, it is all about keeping their monopoly and monetising the shit out of that position.
No email or text is especially secure, so using this form of communication with someone on a different provider doesn't expose a person to any unexpected risk. But messaging programs vary wildly in what they expose and how they handle data. Anyone using such a network would have only as much privacy as that provided by the least private service, which is currently nothing. That's the opposite of what I would want out of a communication software, personally.
Wait his bet is that trump would fight for him? Trump? The person that notoriously cares only about himself?
For enough money, Trump will care about any cause.
Yes, Trump. The guy he gave a million dollar bribe to.
What's he gonna do, threaten tariffs? Ooooooh, scary!
Whos using facebook in 2025
Sadly me because it's the only thing the old ass fucks I know IRL are using as a majority. That and SMS, lol. I never scroll the feed on Facebook anymore though because, and I wish this was hyperbole, 3/5 posts are either blatant ads or ads disguised as promoting a page.
I am in the same boat and I closed down everything but the messenger as the piece of shit is connected to myriads of accounts I can not access if I close my fb.
Poles. Facebook groups are used like Reddit in USA
Conservatives mostly
WhatsApp, Instagram and other shit though.
But what is the alternative to Whatsapp? As Europeans, we would have to set a switchover date, for example 1 January 2026, when we all switch from Wahtsapp to Signal or whatever. That would set an example and you wouldn't have the problem of 2 people using Whatsapp, 3 using Threema and the rest using something else... Whatsapp is only still so big because almost everyone has it...
I've learned people adapt really fast when you take away something they really want to have. In Brazil, WhatsApp blackouts were met with a rapid adoption of telegram. Meta knows for sure they can't pressure the government through the population here.
I have seen an alternative fediverse version of Instagram posted on Lemmy like a dozen times.
Also, as an aside, it's really weird that Americans don't use WhatsApp and like all of Europe seems to. We probably have more telegram users here and even that's probably less than 1% of society.
Yeah, i wish we would do that...
Signal
SMS. Nein, ernsthaft, mehrere Messenger sind wirklich kein Problem, ist nur eine Gewohnheitssache.
You only need the critical mass. If enough people switch or at least use both the other service can succeed
Mexicans; meta and xitter in general have everyone grabbed by the balls and people are fighting to not let their balls free, everything else is scary and only for criminal activity.
Elon will probably tweet something about it