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[–] Kissaki 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can understand the reasoning, but I would have weighed the significant benefit over the little "complexity"/content increase.

The color inversion is a significant effect. It doesn't change anything for those that use their own error pages, but significantly improves the situation for people who land on these pages and are bothered by light mode.

/edit: Their PR close comment was super short (non-telling), but they later commented with some reasonable reasoning that better describes their point of view and considerations.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

The team's position for rejecting this seems reasonable, but then you look at the actual PR and you see that's one extra line of html on the error pages and I can't help but feel like it wasn't a big deal to accept this.

[–] Kissaki 5 points 1 month ago

Waaaait - I recently implemented a simple dark mode for a simple page and thought color-scheme declares intent/support not influence how it is being rendered. I thought I still had to define dark coloring.

I just checked and to my surprise the browser indeed serves different default/root coloring when dark color scheme is declared [as well]. :O This means I can simplify my CSS.

I must have been misled when skimming by "specifies compatibility" and "Component authors must use the prefers-color-scheme media feature to support the color schemes on the rest of the elements." missing the browser behavior change description.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree with this decision. Don't make error pages more complicated than they are.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It's literally just one line of HTML though:

<meta name="color-scheme" content="light dark">

Not complicated at all.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

They're already more complicated than I want them to be so I'm passing on that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

As if I needed another reason to avoid nginx.

Seems like a very simple, lightweight and elegant solution to keeping the engine up to modern standards. If they were serious about keeping complexity out they wouldn’t have such garbage site configuration.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Most server admins use custom 404 pages, so the default page isn't that common in production.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And yet everyone has stumbled into them a few times.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Some of my static sites are definitely not configured correctly and show the default error messages. A lot of sites have dynamic content though, and are often configured like:

try_files $uri $uri/ @backend;

So any requests for files that don't exist get routed to the backend, which usually shows its own error messages instead of Nginx's.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good to know. My experience with nginx is definitely on the light end. I much prefer traefik I guess coming from k3s world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I only really knew of Apache as an alternative before.

[–] mousetail 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Really, this minor issue you'll never run into is a reason to avond nginx

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’s the little things that always add up. It’s not the lack of feature but their dismissal of it I guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If you want to see this simple change in Nginx, they're running a poll here: https://github.com/nginx/nginx/discussions/584

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Honestly, the only person using my sites is me, and I have dark reader anyway lol