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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

Americans are not a monolith. Tons of Americans are concerned. Tons are not. Also many Americans have lives where these issues the news typically stirs up don't really actually impact their daily lives. Others are dramatically affected. It really depends on location and status, among so many factors.

Various news and online channels might have you thinking all Americans are basically the same and experiencing things the same, but they are definitely not.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

With god as my armour I need no vaccines

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

But we hanged that dude on a cross, did you miss the news?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Yes but that was so he could absolve us of our diseases! Maybe. I'm not so knowledgeable of Christianity, I'm Republican.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Probably the same reason Europeans drink and smoke too tbh

The risk seems worth it. Either because the see it as lower than it is or that the loss of life less valuable than others see it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago

Science showed things like climate change, which was hurting the bottom line of giant corporations who donate huge amounts of money to Republicans, so Republicans convinced their base that science is against God, and that it's all part of the evil woke liberals thing. So now anything that comes from science, including vaccines, is tainted.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
  1. The people who aren't idiots are already vaccinated so they'll be fine.

  2. The people who are idiots think they are safer without vaccination. They are the ones who will die (or their children) but they aren't aware of it.

  3. The people who can't get vaccinated but aren't idiots are kind of just screwed but this is an incredibly small minority of the population.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago

People who are vaccinated are 100% going to die from mutated versions of diseases their idiot neighbours have been incubating.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

We're actively disinformed. That's why. It's really that simple.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because we also die from totally preventable school shootings too.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sad thing is that I don't think gun restrictions would work cos criminals get their guns unlawfully

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

YEA!

U-S-A! U-S-A!

'MURICA

Please send help

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Help ? You mean prayers ?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because

  1. taxing the rich is a partisan stance

  2. people are unaware that the government would spend less on singlepayer than it spends currently dealing with middlemen

  3. a non-negligible number of people don't believe in micro-organisms, nutrition, or cancer as it is understood by doctors

TLDR: decentralized education with zero funding makes a whole country of dumb assholes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

Congressional democrats have no interest in actual taxing the ultra wealthy either. It’s bipartisan to not “bite the hand that feeds.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago) (1 children)

Well the last tax bill was written and passed by the GOP in 2017, it got 0 DNC votes in the house the first time and it passed but with 3 congressional violations which would otherwise protect budget bills from filibuster at the time and so it was filibustered, then it passed the house again with changes and then the Senate 51 to 48 with 0 DNC votes and this time was immune to filibuster.

Now they get to write the new bill again this time because it is about to expire.

We DO have an idea of the DNC tax plan from the Kamala Harris Campaign promising to tax unrealized gains over 1M and to remove the upper limit that rich people pay to Socia Security Taxes, while also keeping or lowering taxes on anybody who made less than 400k.

We also know that the previous Biden Administration supported the IRS and gave them every resource and incentive to Audit the Rich, which they absolutely did.

So I guess if you ignore literally everything that happens then you can make that claim. Take your pick: ignorant or liar, which do you claim to be?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 minutes ago

It’s all posturing. When they actually have the power to fully pass tax bills they don’t. It’s only when they know it won’t become law that they pander to their voters. It’s all a show.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago

"preventable disease" and "Americans" are very broad terms

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Most of us are concerned.

The minority are concerned because the US government has done unethical and malicious medical stuff to minorities, which makes some level of hesitancy for those groups understandable. Not the cod oil instead of vaccines bullshit white middle class and up promote, that is pure snake oil propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 hours ago

Intentionally infecting black airmen with syphillus and giving them placibos instead of treatments so they could track long term effects.

As an example.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago

Not just americans. this started in the uk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We're concerned, we just can't afford health care

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

So why do Republicans like Jesse Watters say things like, "I'm offended that Canada wouldn't want to be a part of america."

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 hours ago

Because they're not used to people saying no to them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Every cult has as one of its core tenets that only evil, terrible people wouldn't want to be part of it.

The U.S. is currently being run by a cult.

Not everyone in the U.S. is part of that cult. But a damned lot of the population of the U.S. is.

Source: Am american.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago

I hate that you’re right.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think a lot of Americans have the option that these contagious diseases aren't really dangerous anymore and that THEY won't be affected by any fallout. THEY will be able to survive it so THEY don't care.

In reality, lots of people live in small communities and even though they might go on the internet, they don't go very deep. So unless it's in their face, they don't know much about it. And "my gran pappy had the mumps and he was fine!" mentality.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Just for the record I hate they gran pappy and he was not fine, the syphilis addled fuck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

i hear ya. it's a major fucking bummer knowing that most of the people around me a fucking stupid

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Because, in spite (or perhaps because of) the 'rough individualist' propaganda, most Americans have a strong sense of powerlessness and that all they can do is keep their head down and hope for the best. It veers into some really absurdist fatalism at times.

t. leftist American from a conservative area who still keeps tabs on family

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

who still keeps tabs on family

Oof.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Luckily, the family member I'm closest to, my mother, is religiously fundamentalist and nationalist in a way that vaccinated her against MAGA, bizarrely. So talking to her is like having a 10+ year window into the past.

But yeah, for the rest, oof.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

I think many of us don't realize that there's a better option. As in, this is just the way it is. Many who do learn there are alternatives then fall to propaganda about how the alternatives are worse or communist, etc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

We also have a chronic disposition toward optimism. You know “the American dream” and all that.

So a disease with a 10% mortality rate has a 90% survival rate. And 90% is bigger than 50%, so when you factor in chronic optimism it’s basically a 100% survival rate in our brains.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

we have a domestic cult that doesn't listen to anything outside of the cult. for the people not in the cult, most are not against medicine and other modern things. some of us are actual scientists and feel like we just live here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Because we are so far removed from poor conditions that some of us don't even think they exist. And since they've never seen it, misinformation can just slide right in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

People only care about narratives, and a side effect of having a scientific/naturalistic worldview is that things like disease become narratively inert.

People used to care a lot more about diseases when they could be given narrative causes like witchcraft or demons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago

Questions like this seem stupid, or they just need to be phrased in a more reasonable way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

What is there to live for? Collective pain and misery. Be a mensch and let go.