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So, my an online american friend said"My mom didn't want to vaccine vax cuzs autism". Is he joking? I know many people say thing like that but i thought they all were joking?

In my country which is a third world country no one believe shit like that even my Grand mother who is illiterate and religious don't believe thing like that and knows the benefit of vaccine.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

A neighbor told me that even though her now-adult children had no side effects if she could go back and decide to not vaccinate them instead, she would

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Mexican here. It's not as pronounced in my country but some people are a bit hesitant of vaccines because of the bullshit leaking out of the US. It's usually the least educated who are often more inclined to believe.

Having said that, we have a lot more believers in homeopathy, including plenty of healthcare professionals because it's been recognized by our Health Department. Because if it's recognized and popular, it's gotta be true, right? 🙃

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

Having lived next to them for my whole life; For Americans if it sounds too stupid to be true it’s probably true

[–] MajorHavoc 14 points 1 day ago (7 children)

United States citizens have reasons not to trust their government with their health. Trust takes a lot time to build, and recent administrations haven't been building it.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

MIL100% believes this. Her son was normal until about 3 and then developed seizures and is now brain damage. She blames vaccines and it doesn't help a few other kids in area had similar experiences. She thinks there was a bad batch distribution.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Here's the funny thing, if that had actually happened (bad batch of a vaccine hurt kids) there is an entire Vaccine Injury Fund that will pay out to her. Medical providers have been reporting vaccine injuries for as long as we've had vaccines and there's lots of very real side effects. However, it's extremely difficult to get the payout because you have to prove the vaccine caused the injury and provide evidence that batches were the same. It's probably gone with DOGE but the vaccine manufacturers did pay in to the fund so the money is there and always has been if people can provide their allegations.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

But you also need to be careful how you talk about this because there is always some who seize on the real risk of issues without the perspective of the likelihood being minuscule compared tot he disease it prevents.

While there is some risk of the measles vaccination, it pales before the much bigger risk, the much higher harm of a measles epidemic. And we need a high percentage of people vaccinated to prevent that epidemic to protect all of us, including vulnerable segments of the population who can’t be immunized

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago

Go to know. I dk if she had the fight in her to go after it. Wonder if a lawyer would investigate for her.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends on which vaccine. There are two agencies, there is the VICP and the CICP. The VICP only covers a short list of vaccines that doesn't include COVID. (https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/covered-vaccines). COVID vax is covered by the CICP and doesn't pay anything out for pain and suffering, only your medical bills for what your insurance didn't cover from treatment.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At a job in Silicon Valley I had a boss who had an autistic child and my boss told me directly that when they vaccinated their child, the child's behavior changed, and caused autism.

I have other friends in SV who are huge vaccine skeptics.

So, yes, even in deep blue areas there are anti-vax people. There are also Trump flag flying people in SV too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let me guess, the child was at the age where observable signs and behaviors start to appear and it lined up with their vaccine schedule?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It’s all too real even today, however that might not be the cause of current measles outbreaks.

Measles was eradicated from the US years ago, thanks to high vaccination rates. However that means most people have never seen measles so there is a fringe belief that it’s not harmful or the vaccination is more harmful, and vaccination rates have been declining to the point we could get a larger epidemic.

We do have localized measles outbreaks many years but they’ve usually been attributed to a new infection from overseas and a very local community insufficiently vaccinated. Sometimes the population is from places where they’re not vaccinated, sometimes it’s a vulnerable population. While yes, it can also be from fringe anti-vax groups, I really think the bigger fear is whether those fringe groups open a path to much wider outbreaks or epidemics.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The belief is real (but the claim is not).

A doctor claimed a certain ingredient in vaccines was causing autism, while also trying to sell his own version without that ingredient. A massive conflict of interest and he lost his medical licence over it.

But damage was done and people freaked out over it. In fact, the ingredient was removed in order to alleviate peoples concerns but by that point the idea vaccines=autism had taken off and it was hard to stop that spread of misinformation. Especially since the dude doubled down on the stance.

See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Andrew Wakefield, Jenny McCarthy, and RFK Jr. have so caused so much needless death and suffering. Fucking monsters.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

And Oprah for platforming these grifters (among many others).

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some idiots in America believe this, most don't.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

They sure do. It's so dumb.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Yes, people truly believe this. It seems obviously bonkers to you and I, because we have at least average critical thinking skills. The people who believe these things have way below average critical thinking skills. And there A LOT of these people. Just look at your normal bell curve chart.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No there's really people that stupid. It's tragic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

And these fuckfaces act like they’re enlightened.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Your friend is not joking. There's an epidemic of disinformation washing across the USA.

And thanks to the disinformation around vaccines, there are also several other types epidemics breaking out...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

If these people were around 50 yrs ago we'd still have polio and smallpox.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Let's put it this way, the new FBI director sells supplements to make you immune from "vaccine shedding", AKA being around vaxxed people.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

It’s so bad Texas currently has a measles outbreak.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Not American, but at least a few do. And they're exporting it. My old English teacher back when I lived in the Dominican Republic was an American missionary who taught to fund her religious activities. Guess what beliefs about science and politics she was spreading along with her beliefs about baptism of the spirit?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

People heard about the original, now discredited study, which came out around the time autism diagnosises were increasing. People then either didn't hear or chose not to believe that the OG study was discredited.

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