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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Yes, of course. We also had a notebook (these paper-based thingies, not a digital one) in the terminal room where we collected interesting web site addresses back then before Altavista and bookmarks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

No, I remember Opera 7/8 though. Well... the one with ads.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I seem to remember there being yellow…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

this gives me goosebumps

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Ok, going to scream into the abyss here...

I had Netscape on my 486DX2-66 with a 33.6 modem. Win 95, along with ICQ, mIRC, some NNTP reader I can't recall... You get the picture.

Everyone I've told this to thinks I must have been out of my mind. But for a period of time that I recall as months I had some sort of phenomenon where Netscape would stop loading a web page (could take 10s of seconds, you know) unless you MOVED THE MOUSE. Continuously. The animated "N" on would freeze and if you didn't move the mouse the page would just be blank, or partially loaded. Move the mouse, it resumes. Stop moving the mouse, it stops. I used to have to move my mouse in figure-eights, cajoling the machine to not give up and keep downloading.

You'll think I'm crazy, too. But when I share this story I keep hoping someone, somewhere had the same experience. And maybe, someone who knows what was going on will chime in on some obscure IRQ conflict in Windows along with some optimization used by Netscape in one iteration caused this bug for a brief moment in time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

Ahh…. I was there my friend. Similar setup, 486 DX4 100, USRobotics modem. I had the IRQ conflict. Me and my friend figured out how to change the channels by reading the mainboard‘s manual. I had to change some jumpers around. It was my first modem and I had never connected to the internet before.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Were you by chance running a proxy, even on localhost? Here's a good description of that issue: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29539106

That thread also mentions the Windows 95 requirement for randomization on mouse movement. A page you visited regularly may have been using this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

On linux /dev/random will use inputs such as mouse movement to generate random data. If a program needs random data for something such as encryption it will seemingly hang whilst it generates enough. This isn't good on servers without an active user so you configure it to use /dev/urandom instead. Perhaps windows had similar back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 37 minutes ago

Nah... Netscape Navigator Gold was peak. Netscape Communicator was too bloated and took forever to load. Sure it had an email client, HTML editor, etc. but these should have been separate programs, not all built into a single thing. The original mozilla browser was also this way until ~~Phoenix~~ ~~Firebird~~ Firefox pulled a browser out of the bloated mess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

For some reason this gif gives me nostalgia of listening to artbell.com on Netscape - Good times.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Ah yes web 2.0 was also a thing. I remember.

I’ll never forget watching pictures roll in line-by-line on dialup back in 1995 or so.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. 1999-2000 was also peak internet for me. Netscape, Napster, Neopets, and Nick.com (and StarCraft multiplayer). It didn't get any better than that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Limewire… downloading all your favourite songs, wait no… typing in names of any song you could think of in hopes you’d find it. Then you did find it and it turned out to be the same damn song you can’t stand with the file misnamed. A whole generation grew up confused about who sang their favourite songs, and found constant frustration in waiting like 12min (on a great day) for Smells Like Teen Spirit to download, only to find they got Weird Al Yankovich’s parody instead… like 4 times in a row from four different files. Ahhhh memories.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I remember thinking Netscape was way cooler than IE based purely on the throbber animation

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

"Throbber" animation? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

in case you didn't know: the animated icon (usually the cursor) that indicates background processing is called a throbber.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 hours ago

I've seen that some dude on here has the Netscape throbber (for Gen Z: that's what the animated doohickey in the corner that shows your page is still loading and your computer has not frozen is called) as his profile icon.

Maybe you've just summoned him up, Beetlejuice style.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 hours ago

You can download all the old Netscapes here - http://home.mcom.com/archives/

I found Mosaic 1 here - https://winworldpc.com/product/ncsa-mosaic/1

[–] [email protected] 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Remember when we got excited about browser releases? What a time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

Going from Netscape 1 to Netscape 2 which supported animated gifs. What a day that was!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I have Navigator 1.0 on a disk in my basement. Its my precious.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

"We hates the AOL!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I sure remember the HOURS it took me to download that sucker on my 14.4kb modem. I was blessed by the gods with a parent in the computer industry even then so we had a 2nd phone line that I could monopolize for a day of agonizingly watching and praying not to lose connection again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

Yes, if all had been perfect it should have only taken about an hour but dialup internet was ditzy and unreliable so I spent a huge chunk of that weekend getting a full download.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The URL about:mozilla was always full of fun :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 minute ago

Xul has entered the chat 👻

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Not this specific version, but NN in general, as a kid I sure do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yep - me too. I had to go to our "mainframe room" where we had our only Sun workstation - the only thing that would run the first versions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Mosaic and Lynx on Sun workstations was how I started as well. Back then, there was a ton of open ftp access as well, wild.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

14.4k baud modem download.. yes.. I also plastered this on old wepages.. hahahaha

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

Apparently yes.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago

Anyone remember Flash Player? Me neither...