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EU absolutely is a country.

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[–] ICastFist 3 points 49 minutes ago

As a Brazilian, yes. I doubt anything halfway decent would show up instead, which probably sounds better

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

An MP I really admire in Ontario is pushing for Elections Canada to protect our electoral process from the Grand Twit's interference, so that's something. I'd prefer a ban.

Even though the Proud crowd are big operators in Canada, banning Yankee social media would maybe help lower the ragebait volume a bit. Whatever makes a dent.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't need a ban. They enshitified and I moved on. All Meta apps (including WhatsApp) gone. X/Twitter gone. LinkedIn gone. Reddit gone.

Now I use Lemmy, Mastodon/BlueSky, and Signal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

the questions wasn't regarding you, it was regarding everyone else

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I'm not American.

A ban would fix a lot of problems. But only because the platforms moderate things to match the platform owners opinions.

Platforms enabling free speech are beneficial.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

I know I'm not the target of this question, but as American I'd like to see the reverse. I wanna see more non American social media in the US.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

I’m americana and would definitely support a ban of American Social media in my country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I am so tempted, so tempted to write yes. But no, at the end of the day, I don't think speech should be regulated like that. If we as a society don't learn to distinguish truth from bullshit, democracy can't survive.

EU absolutely is a country.

Also, fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

UK. yes. as well as US news, import export.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As a Canadian, yes please. Their culture infiltrates ours so much that there are some people who believe in the American superiority and don't understand that we're two different peoples, with very different approaches to how we should live and treat others. Obviously, we Canadians are not perfect, and we have more in common than not but it's disheartening to hear Canadians (including people in my own inner circle) view our country as nothing but the USA's little bitch.

I get the world is sliding right, and our political pendulum definitely swings. But I worry that in the efforts to acknowledge the harms that we've done (and currently do) to people in our own country, that the backlash to those policies and acknowledgments will cause us to lose things that I'm proud of and freedoms that I enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

I agree, I worked a Canadian election years ago and a voter left the booth to ask me how to vote for a particular American political party because they couldn't find it on the ballot. I imagine things have only gotten worse since then.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’m American, and I would support a ban of American social media in my country.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

Seconded. And I live in a swing state so my opinion means more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

In it's current form? Absolutely. Optimizing for anger is not doing us any favours

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 hours ago

I’m an American and I think America social media should be banned.

That is, closed-source, centralized for-profit social media platforms that will inevitably devolve into ads and data collection machines should be banned.

The problem isn’t the country that hosts the platform. The problem is the incentive structure for social media to profit off its users.

Platforms that are either FOSS, run by non-profits, or pay-to-use don’t have an intrinsic incentive to exploit its users and can, in theory, be run ethically and sustainably.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Absolutely. It's basically just allowing American tech companies to decide who's leading the country. FrP (furthest right of the mainstream parties) is set to win the next election and it's not because they have good ideas. It's because of propaganda.

Also, the person you elected has threatened an EU member state with war, so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I would love that! Deleting my Facebook account would cripple my social life and ability to keep up with events in the community. It's the only thing keeping me in. Giving everyone a reason to find other places to organize would be amazing!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I wouldn't welcome a ban in general but yeah, if everyone was off Facebook here it would make things so much better. It's the only way to connect and follow social organizations and small businesses. Hate it.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Twitter is not a social media anymore, it is a propaganda platform. There are regulations for media in civilized places. Twitter does not respect the law, thus it shall be banned.

If it were up to me it would be seized, because there is a public interest to this platform. Seizing it to make the algorithm transparent, fair and legal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I really hope the EU will ban it, but I'm afraid they will ask firmly for "some changes", and claim victory over whatever "small change" is in reality. Their investigation took too long and the lead was replaced already. Then they will declare that "recent events and information were not taken in account" and go on for another N years of investigations.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

No. But a ban on algorithms would be nice.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Oh yes! Build Lemmy entirely from one line of lambda calculus.

While we're at it, the vegans can stop consuming inorganic chemicals.

;-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I bet you actually know what I am referring to ;-)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I hate how in common parlance "algorithm" has become synonymous with "recommender system", when it's so much more basic of a concept. But whenever I used to gripe about it, or inform people of the more specific terminology back on reddit I was downvoted. So thanks to you for bringing it up first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I suppose you got downvoted because it's such an 'Um actually it's GNU/Linux' thing to say. You are surely technically correct, but most people understand what's implicated and don't appreciate a know-it-all correcting them.

For myself, I don't care. I just learned a new name for social media algorithms with 'recommender system'.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

I believe censorship is harmful to civilization.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 14 hours ago

Yeah. It would help usher in a new era of social media and communities. Fb, insta, tiktok, reddit have killed smaller communities and websites. And I miss them. Internet needs to die to be born again.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 16 hours ago

Well, EU is not a country, but yeah, they should either comply with our rules (which currently neither one of them does), or get fucked out of here.

I hope some local, ActivityPub based service would appear in the vacuum.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

I think regulation would be the proper course of action, here. I mean neither do we ban American cars in Europe. We just say they have to play by our rules or they can't do business here. So I wouldn't support a ban based on country of origin. But regulation what they can and can not do.

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