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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Social media is a cancer on society.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The thing about Mastodon for influencers is... you don't even have to leave Twitter. Just post to both.

If enough people get into that habit, it makes the transition much easier for everyone.

[–] glockenspiel 1 points 6 days ago

Post and follow up. I’ve been so incredibly disappointed every time someone maintains both X and Mastodon accounts… only to discover that all the updates and commenting from them happens on X exclusively. So a thread will get cross posted for part 1 and that’s it.

Most influencers are, by their nature, extremely low effort. Really explains why so many cling to outright hostile-to-them platforms.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Twitter is very friendly to influencers because it automatically boosts popular posts and hashtags. Mastodon doesn't by design, so they're gonna have a much, much harder time there.

That's an okay decision to take, but it makes it hard to grow the network because there's a lower financial incentive.

[–] MajorHavoc 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Mastodon doesn't by design, so they're gonna have a much, much harder time there.

In theory, yes. But what early switching folks are reporting is that the total impressions are much lower on Mastodon, but the total engagement is much higher, for the same effort.

Which is confusing unless we factor in what we know about Twitter farming bot account on purpose to create an inflated appearance of success.

Of course, there's still the matter of Twitter genuinely has orders of magnitude more users. So as an either/or proposition, no way does it, yet, make sense to ditch Twitter for Mastodon.

But for the value-to-reach ratio, with the same effort applied to both, anyway, Mastodon is actually already a better value than Twitter.

All that to say, yeah, Twitter is better, purely due to the user base, and Mastodon's algorithm actually treats creators better. Which we kind of already knew, as it was created by people fed up with Twitters abusive algorithms.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mastodon doesn't by design

There is a trending section, and it does boost popular tags based on user interaction. It doesn't shovel crap into personal feeds like traditional social media, but it's not entirely lacking discovery features either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Please tell me how I can keep posting to twitter after I was banned for being a journalist?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

My point was for people who are scared to leave Twitter. They don't have to. They can just dip their toes in while still holding their Elon-themed blanket.

I understand that often you can't just drop the platform where all the engagement is when your job is to promote something. However, you can still enable people who do want to make the switch.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It blows my mind that places like the transit systems that were on Twitter haven't migrated over to their own Mastodon server. They're not that hard to set up, and there's so little risk when you just don't accept public signups on your domain.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I agree. The Fediverse stuff is really well suited for governments and businesses. They can be in complete control of their instance, post whatever information they want distributed, and they don't need to rely on any other business for it.

[–] MajorHavoc 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. I'm surprised businesses haven't been quicker to setup self-hosted Mastodon as their primary, and then mirror that to Twitter and Bluesky and such, for disaster recovery protection.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You'd need something that is literally only a few clicks and it's set up, and it auto updates with 0 user intervention. Until that happens your typical business will never want to touch their own hosted mastodon server.

[–] MajorHavoc 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah. I think we're waiting for the kind of installers and updaters that WordPress achieved before we see typical businesses running their own Mastodon server.

But I do think many organizations have got the risk/reward wrong, by underestimating the risk, at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Completely agree! Seeing the dumb little logos all over timetables and the sides of buses always makes me roll my eyes. First they had to change the "t" logo to the bird, then that's out of date on a billionaire's whim and they have to replace it with the apocalyptic "X". Come on guys, this is getting embarrassing. Stop treating big private companies like Daddy, it's time to stand on your own feet. The tools are there.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's happening right now is eerily close to the "Gleichschaltung" that happened after Hitler took over Germany, basically bringing all media in line with the will of the party and the leader. It was news media then, it is social media now. Because for many people, social media is their primary news source.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Checked the rules and I think this is allowed? But if you've still got reddit and don't mind being a fediverse evangelist please go hit this thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1i6rp3o/decentralized_social_media_is_the_only/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Did hit it. Keep servicing that thread, you're doing well. It's blowing up a bit.

Repost this in other communities in Lemmy. Shitpost, technology, etc.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh no. Centralized social media fights back! 😂

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Damn we had a good run.

EDIT: We'll Streisand em

[–] Die4Ever 3 points 1 week ago

I think the join-lemmy.org link was fine, it seemed to get deleted when you edited in links to specific lemmy instances?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Didn't say but I'm pretty sure it's because I edited to add lemmy specific information. In particular I mentioned the apps

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I caught it in time, i am a fresh convert.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Welcome! Ask Qs, we'll answer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

[email protected] is a good starting point

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Welcome.

The biggest thing you have to learn is that everything defaults to "active" instead of "hot." If it seems stale after setting the primary to "hot" in your settings, choose "top 6 hours" and "top 12 hours" to see more content. It's not as addicting so it takes a little time to settle in to the calmness, but it's great after you get used to it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Next time, make a new subreddit. 😂

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

/r/Redditalternatives

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Especially for Redditors, Lemmy is such a no-brainer alternative. I think I'm gonna try to do more, and try to bring some of my audio communities out here by promoting Lemmy in the subs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I now have a dozen comments on Reddit in the last year, up from 3 an hour ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

lmao clicked that link and one of the first comments I see is “reddit is pretty decentralized”

I get that 404 needs to make money but this article could greatly benefit from not being paywalled. Or at least list a definition of what decentralized social media is with some actual recommendations before the paywall because people clearly have no fucking clue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Its all good!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Can someone please post the full article in the comments?

[–] Die4Ever 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

How much of the fediverse runs on AWS and how willing do we think besos would be to pull the plug on those?

[–] moonpiedumplings 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not much, probably. For small scale usecase, like a VPS, AWS is horrifically expensive. For a 4GB of ram VPS, AWS is 30 USD a month, whereas you can get that for 10 USD a month, elsewhere.

AWS does this because of vender lock in. For the few times when a consumer of theirs needs a VPS (or some other service cheaper elsewhere, it's less effortt to continue to use AWS than to go someplace else.

But for individuals and small organizations, like the fediverse servers, we can just start out on the cheaper options.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Doing my part running my instances locally 🫡

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