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Whats the issue with Protonmail ?
this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2025
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The ceo promoted Trump. They offer a crypto wallet. Nothing wrong with their products per say, mostly politics. L
Oh, ok.
Sorry I'm not really adding to the question but we need alternatives for a lot of apps.. Fb, Instagram, WhatsApp,etc it's impossible for me to ditch them all without loosing contact with friends/family.. any other threads going on about this? Maybe have a general thread and subsequent migration movements, we really need to act on this social life monopoly we've became hostages to..
What's the problem with WhatsApp? Aren't the chats encrypted?
Whatsapp is owned by meta
Not a shitty product, but the company is shit unfortunately
Tuta
I guess I'm out of the loop. What's wrong with Proton?
Its CEO is kissing Trump's ass.
really? that sucks. really? i am genuinely so disappointed, jeez
That's one take: that Andrew Yang is a Trump supporter. However, another take is that he made a massive mistake by making it seem as if he supported Trump, even though he was talking about something specific and narrow.
https://insights.priva.cat/p/a-follow-up-on-does-proton-still
If he doesn't, then he could come out and state that and address all of the republican problems.
Always has been a sketchy company - any company who claims Swiss privacy laws are good (and in reality operates out of the US) is lying to you.
I've been using PurelyMail for over a year now and it's been solid. Probably aimed more at tech-minded folk though.
disroot
autistici
Sadly the best product mail-wise is currently MS Exchange online. Privacy wise Posteo is probably the best.
posteo.de
What in the spam username is this?
I want to say... Some sort of self hoster with a cheap domain going for the "security through obscurity" approach...
https://crt.sh/?q=91268476.xyz
I'll let you explore, but definitely a self hoster!
.com’s are 10 bucks. How cheap could it be??
The 1.111B class (basically the numbered domains) cost ~1 dollar/yr.
That is a lot cheaper
If you're self-hosting something for your own use, there's nothing better than the dollar .xyz domains, as that's literally what they were priced like that for. Dunno if I would use them for public services, though.
Free for a year or so, depending on where you register
I've had a decent experience with Tuta.
Opened a Tuta account six months ago and have never been back on Protonmail as a result. Same quality for free.
mailbox.org seems pretty good. No apps though. And setting up syncing for calendar and contacts takes a bit of work. but once it's working, it's good. I'm using thunderbird mobile for mail and DAVx5 to sync contacts and calendar.
Can vouch for mailbox.org.
I've been using their 1€ per month tier for a year now, everything has worked well.
StartMail is owned by an advertising company, it's not a better choice whatsoever.
Until they don't.
After trying and failing to get used to Proton's UX, Fastmail has been great.
Been using Fastmail for a few years now. I really like it.
I've been a Runbox customer for many years. Never had a problem. Runbox is operated from privacy-respecting Norway.
Same answer as last time this was asked, I am very happy with Posteo.
No implying that asking multiple times is bad.
We should all be asking about and offering alternatives, a lot. Over and over.
Kolabnow is great.
Too fucking funny. This is because of the various bad news, right? So fucking funny. Everyone and their dog bragging about proton mail the last few years and you're a moron if you haven't switched blah blah blah.
I'm so sorry. You'll think I'm annoying and stupid, but would it be absurd to ask for clarification regarding what you mean? I couldn't really understand your point and it sounds like you have a passion for this topic and a clear point of view.
I mean, it is still objectively way better than most / all mainstream solutions. The issues is with the CEO's political stance, nothing about the technical implementation details or anything the company did wrong with managing your data.
I'm still interested in supporting a different company because of it, but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Proton over Gmail any day.
"Corporations are never your friend."
But this one is different! It's non-profit!