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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know, in some ways, I appreciate Musk. He has gone out of his way to demonstrate, for all to see, how billionaire parasites get to fail upward no matter how irredeemably incompetent and vile they happen to be.

Scumwads like gates and Bezos hides it all behind walls of pr propaganda, but not Musk.

I wonder what a cyberguillotine would look like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Cyberguillotine is the door of the Cybertruck's trunk, which famously has no sensor to block closing it when something is in the way, and is powerful and sharp enough to cut fingers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It can sense when something's blocking it from closing all the way. It was just foolishly programmed to only pop back open a few times. Think it was the third or fourth was where it went into guillotine mode.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure that was after an update and the original release did not give a shit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

As much as I think the cybertruck is a stupid vehicle and agree that teslas are built like shit, from what I understand this isn't an atypical amount of recalls for a new vehicle platform.

Without even paying much attention the two I know of, the gas pedal and the singer slicer are unacceptable however.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What’s funny to me is there is nothing new in it. It’s trumped up garbage. It still has a chassis and 4 wheels. Nothing new. It’s stuffed with old tech that doesn’t work. These losers are guinea pigs and probably get scammed annually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Steer by wire is pretty much the only cool thing. It exists elsewhere sure, but not in vehicles of this size

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not even cool, it's scary. What happens when this 7,000 pound brick loses power? There's now a battering ram flying down the road with absolutely no control.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's no failsafe? Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, the steering wheel has no mechanical connection to the wheels. There's not even a mechanical emergency brake, that needs to be done electrically too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

*parking brake not emergency brake. Most of these ratchet down and wouldn't be very useful in an emergency since they'd just cause your rear wheels to lock up and lose traction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The folks at Some More News made a really great point: The truck segment is ripe for disruption. People who need trucks hate the monstrosities that truck companies are putting out. The Cybertruck, however, isn't disrupting the market. It just looks weird. It's just as heavy and big as other trucks.

Imagine if a company put out a small truck. Not too powerful, not too big, good sight lines and a nice, big bed. That would be disruptive.

Then again, I'm a Harbinger of Failure and listening to me is probably a bad idea. I assume people aren't fucking idiots so maybe just build bigger and bigger trucks that are less and less useful

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As a European. Most of the people don't need a freaking truck. Big or small. In the rare cases you do need to move something, just rent a van. It will save you a lot of gas and money.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Totally agree. This hypothetical company could capitalize on that. The branding "Trucks for people who need trucks" writes itself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (10 children)

You can tell Elon is a genius because he gets people to pay to do prototype testing for him.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

We gotta stop calling software updates recalls. Yeah I get that it’s fun to bash on the Cybertruck but this isn’t really that interesting.

Now that sticky accelerator pedal… yikes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Recall is a legal term for the car industry which includes stuff like reporting obligations. So if the defect meets the severity level of a recall it should be called as such, even if it is 'just' a software update. Ambiguous terms for safety violations are dangerous and may cost lives.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Recall is also the plural term for a group of Cybertrucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Rear view cameras have been federally required on passenger vehicles since module year 2018 in the US market. So yeah, regardless of the error, it's a recall because the result makes the vehicle noncompliant.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

On the one hand I agree, but also just because it can be fixed over the air doesn't mean it's not a major problem.

Plus imagine if a car manufacturer put VERY shitty software into their cars. If a manufacturer has 100 recalls a year, I want to know why. If they have 1, I want to know why.

Just because they are more easily fixed, doesn't mean the recall isn't important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

There are also plenty of dumb, nearly inconsequential recalls on regular cars too. Including things like "place this warning sticker in your manual". That's a recall.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah..... But these are multi-ton vehicles and when they crash people die. Unlike when your computer crashes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don’t think “the backup camera is a little slow to turn on” is the smoking gun you are looking for though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

You consider 6-8 seconds a “little” slow?!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Someone dumb enough could easily flatten someone backing up with that bug.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sure it happens even with perfectly functional cameras.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Sure, it still happens regardless, it just makes it easier and more likely to happen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Cybertruck has no rear view mirror when the back cover is down.

So any reversing requires the use of the backup camera.

The car also accelerates really fast, and weighs 7,000 pounds.

It’s also an $80,000+ car that was preordered by a lot of people without test driving it. So it’s primary driver is someone who makes risky and impulsive decisions.

So a really fast, heavy car that can’t see behind it without a reverse camera, driven by impulsive people makes me think the reverse camera should definitely come up really fast.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's still side mirrors, no? If you've ever seen a semi, those are 60 feet long, weigh 80,000lbs and back up without a rear view mirror or backup camera. Acting like this is an issue that's going to kill people is a bit absurd.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Semi drivers require a commercial license, and special training. They’re monitored way more closely than your average American driver.

And side mirrors only let you see what’s behind the car to the sides and at a distance, not what’s immediately behind the car. I don’t want some idiot in his $80K battering ram to roll over me because I happened to walk behind his death trap and he couldn’t be bothered to wait for the rear view camera to come up.

Not being able to see what’s immediately behind the vehicle is a safety hazard, especially in suburban areas or parking lots where most people are reversing out of a space with other people walking around.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I’ve had software recalls for Toyotas and Hondas, both of which involved physical recall paperwork and required me to visit a dealer to install the new software.

Just because a software recall can be remedied over the air it doesn’t make it any less of a recall. As others have said, there’s a legal definition to a recall. They are issued by the NHTSA and require specific legal responses from the manufacturer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Tesla ~~engineers~~ managers treating it like software. "Ship it and we can patch it in production."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Just dropping a link to the relevant, most recent upload from Some More News aka Cody's Showdy. TL;DW: the cyber truck is an oversized, overpriced, unreliable, terrible design that's dangerous to everybody in and around it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I see Cybertrucks all the time. Everything about it is so ridiculous that I am genuinely embarrassed for the driver. I think it is the scale. If it was the size of a Hyundai Santa Cruz, the aesthetic might work...maybe. It just looks silly, gawdy, unfinished, and cheap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Tesla? Making shoddy vehicles?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I've never heard of something even getting recalled more than once before they aren't being sold and nobody has one anymore; how the fuck do these ugly fucking things get 5 recalls and are still seen regularly on the road? 😬

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Most cars have recalls, usually for benign shit. My Honda had to go in for a fuel pump. Now it needs to go in for some infotainment cable. I'm pretty sure there were a couple others, too.

5 in a year is a lot though. Even for a new model.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ford just got named the "Racall King" last month.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My wife's Edge had a faulty backup camera too, but Ford didn't issue a recall, so I had to shell out hundreds of dollars for a new one and install it myself.

They also have defective ABS modules that corrode when in contact with brake fluid. They did issue a recall for it with the Fusion and MKX but not the Edge. Hers lost complete braking pressure while driving because the ABS valves stick open and bypass the line going to the brake calipers. Luckily, she didn't crash, but once again, I had to shell out $800 to get a new one and spent two days replacing it myself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, here's Some More News on that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

design shoulda gone into the circular filing system at the beginning

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