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An old publication more relevant now than ever - The Cathedral and the Bazaar. A comparison of software practices in the early 2000s with some retrospective to how great software is built.

I think much of the writing can be applied to today's federated content models.

In particular:

  • The Mail Must Get Through
  • Necessary Preconditions for the Bazaar Style
  • The Importance of Having Users
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fediverse is Bizarre Bazaar

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Fedi's Bazaar Adventures

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Browsing post with phone in front of the book between my eyes and shelf ATM

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

fuck ESR

all my homies hate ESR

[–] astral_avocado 7 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i'm out of the loop. what about him?

[–] unquietwiki 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He went from a let-and-let-live, free-loving libertarian; to a more "kooky" libertarian. IMO, he was more palatable 20 years ago than now; though it's hard to top the fall-from-grace Stallman has had...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is something that makes me sad. Stallman and Raymond were heros to me when I was starting out 20 years ago. I guess it goes to show that people are flawed no matter how talented.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

But also this for balance:

A Generation Lost In The Bazaar https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2349257

I honestly read this every year. There are some deep lessons there that are so important for software and product development in general. It gets better every time I read it.

[–] sbstp 2 points 1 year ago

Is there a place that has a list of classic programming articles like this? Such a fun read. I know PHK has another one of the design of Varnish vs Squid here https://varnish-cache.org/docs/trunk/phk/notes.html

[–] echindod 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is an interesting article. I don't know anything about kernel development, but I wonder if it's still true?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's more true than ever! Not really just about kernel development, bit just development in general (see node/npm, etc) and the fact that you need someone to own quality as it doesn't happen by itself.