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Defragged Zebra (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

OP has discovered Tapirs exist.

[-] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago

Fun fact: tapir before defrag

[-] andioop 6 points 1 week ago

I cannot help but see this as a diaper pattern…

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Oh man, I knew I had seen this pattern somewhere.

[-] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago

Pro tip: Defragmenting only works on spinning drives because it puts the data nearer to the spindle so seek times are shorter. Solid-state drives wear out faster if you defragment them, since every write involves a little bit of damage.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

I was about to throw hands, but then I learned something new about how SSDs store data in pre-argument research. My poor SSDs. I've been killing them.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

No you didn‘t. All somewhat current operating systems do not defrag SSDs, they just run TRIM and it does not kill them.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Most modern OSeses do defragmentation on the fly and you don't really need to do it anymore.

Which makes me sad because I have so many memories of watching a disk defragmenter do its thing from my childhood.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Here's a little game I made because I missed it too. https://dbeta.com/games/webdefragger/

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thanks. It was a silly toy, but it scratched an itch, and was good for at least one chuckle.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It's just Paint behind it, isn't it?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I'm guessing you were making a joke, but the real answer is it is a Godot tile map.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I loved watching disk defragmenter doing it‘s job as a kid. I miss it too!

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

real actually. definitely one of the most memorable progress bars. well, that and the bios update progress bar

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Random reads are still slower than sequential in SSD. try torrenting for a year on SSD, then benchmark then defragment then benchmark. it will be very measureable difference. you may need some linux filesystem like XFS as im not sure if there is a way to defrag SSDs in windows.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

That's because the drive was written to its limits; the defrag runs a TRIM command that safely releases and resets empty sectors. Random reads and sequential reads /on clean drives that are regularly TRIMmed/ are within random variance of each other.

Source: ran large scale data collection for a data centre when SSDs were relatively new to the company so focused a lot on it, plus lots of data from various sectors since.

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Pro tip: That tip has been obsolete for a long time now. Running the defragmentation tool on an SSD in Windows optimizes the drive (pretty much just running TRIM). It's not possible to defragment an SSD in Windows (maybe there is a way using some register hack but that's out of scope)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Defragging is about.... defragging: making the data contiguous (a continuous stream along one arc of the same radius) so it doesn't have to jump around.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

well, defragging my ssd was the only thing that let me shrink the windows partition safely when i dualbooted... tho maybe thats just windows being funky

[-] RonSijm 4 points 1 week ago

Defragging an SSD on a modern OS just runs a TRIM command. So probably when you wanted to shrink the windows partition, there was still a bunch of garbage data on the SSD that was "marked for deletion" but didn't fully go through the entire delete cycle of the SSD.

So "windows being funky" was just it making you do a "defragmentation" for the purpose of trimming to prepare to partition it. But I don't really see why they don't just do a TRIM inside the partition process, instead of making you do it manually through defrag

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

i used Defraggler, after nothing else worked to allow diskmgmt to shrink it, including all the normal stuff like disabling page files, snapshots, etc. it shows me how it was reordering parts of the ssd.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

That kinda makes sense. Putting all the partition sectors together would probably make it easier to resize. But as standard maintenance it's like changing the oil on an electric car.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

You just don't want to do it regularly. It was an issue for a brief time when SSDs were new, but modern operating systems are smart enough to exclude SSDs from scheduled defrags.

[-] MagicShel 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Ahh. TV shows before everything became political. Just two guys hating each other for very silly reasons completely unconnected to anything on earth.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Needs an /s

[-] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

The tail is a different partition?

[-] towerful 26 points 1 week ago
[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

This sounds like it could be right, but I don’t know enough about zebra tails.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Now it's a Z:\bra

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

It runs much faster now.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

I thought zebras were solid state.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

They're striped RAIDS, obviously.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Actually they're mostly water.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Well defraging liquid state sounds like a bad idea too.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Too many moving parts to be solid state. Maybe about 10 minutes after one dies.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Defragged cows. System files cannot be moved.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

If they stand close enough and you scan them with a barcode scanner, they show up in the system as beef, but for only $0.21/per pound.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How much is dog meat these days anyways dear husky?

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

I'm glad you defragged it, rather than fragged it..

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

EXT4 watching NTFS solve its fragment problem by upgrading to SSDs instead of upgrading their allocation algorithm.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

This is what south African zebras look like.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

It's what they looked like, in the good old times.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Bruv this is #4 top lemmy post of the day... how did we get here

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

By defragging the zebra, duh

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