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Sam Altman says AI is gonna need so much energy that we need to be investing in new energy strategies.
If it still takes humans doing all this extra work to get the job done, wouldn't it make more financial and ecological sense to just...
...
...pay artists a living wage to do the same fucking job instead?
We're gonna burn our planet to the ground and doom our species to extinction for this bullshit? Fuck me, maybe it's what we deserve, then.
If it still takes humans doing all this extra work to get the job done, wouldn’t it make more financial and ecological sense to just…
…
…pay artists a living wage to do the same fucking job instead?
Someone should tell them this was an option all along before they waste any more time and resources on this.
We’re gonna burn our planet
We? Or maybe just a handful of tech bros with too much money.
I mean, arguably, yes, but I meant more "we" as in "humanity as a whole."
Sure, plenty of us don't actually get a choice in what is happening, but outwardly, you would attribute it to the human species, even if it was only a subset of the human species. Mosquitoes and bedbugs aren't responsible for the destruction of the planet, although it would be nice to be able to blame them.
it's incumbent on sam altman to pretend that ai will more efficiently drain the world's money, capital and power into the hands of the ultra rich, because this is how he causes money, capital and power to drain into his hands
Turns Out That Extremely Impressive Sora Demo
Impressive to whom, exactly? Play a game and pause that video at any random spot and tell me it looks like a movie shot.
Even after editing that scene with the fountain has completely random shadows and this... just whatever the fuck this even is
Every Frame a Drunken Painting
My experience of using AI: Creating something from the bottom of my heart and putting in hours of fighting against its default weights to get it barely presentable, then spending even more time to fix all the imperfections to the point I may as well have just done it myself, only to have everyone I show it to freak out at me for using AI and assume that I'm falling to the technocapitalist dork side. Like I was bored and wanted to fuck around with the latest thing, i'm not going to all of a sudden start firing my whole staff or shilling for cryptocurrency. I don't even see it as a tool, it's a toy, and not a very good one at that. Maybe good for a novelty but it wears off extremely fast.
I tried very hard to use co-pilot for a quick logo creation task. CLL Consulting is a fake company name. I put in quotes like Microsoft suggested, but my output was not as smooth as the Microsoft TV commercial.
(on edit - when you hit the buttons on screen for "change the style of this logo to ___" like watercolor or whatever, it spells it in new and different ways)
finally my new job title has arrived
job tittle
BRB, registering my new company, Clit Conslutting, Inc.
the purpose of AI image generation is to make dumb pictures for Twitter until the novelty wore off
Maybe good for a novelty but it wears off extremely fast
putting in hours of fighting against its...
The point being i'm not going to be using it again.
to be fair, there's still a bunch of other sora demo clips that are very impressive.
* that haven't been individually debunked yet, just the big splashy one they publicised most heavily
I don't think sora is good for anything or anyone other than openai making more money based on hype, but it seems pretty reasonable to me that the company that previously scraped the whole internet (violating everyones copyright) and trained one of the best text models on it, could do the same for video.
I mean, most of the clips they show have some noticable minor (or major) issues, and the "fail" examples are very obviously wrong.
I hadn't even seen the balloon head one, I only watched the clips they published when they announced it.
Unfortunately, effort does not guarantee quality, and it's worth contemplating the possibility that they violated everyone's rights just to make something irredeemably crappy.
true, i do love the video of wolf pups intersecting and disappearing and regenerating like in a dream, or the incredibly creepy birthday one with fake humans morphing into one another and i'd love to see what sort of disturbing and content infringing stuff i could produce with it if it didn't consume a rainforest's worth of power for five seconds of video
Did they claim the video was unedited Sora output? It doesn’t sound like they had to do all that much to the output to get what they wanted. There aren’t any AI tools right now that always output exactly what you want without any alterations, so of course they had to regenerateate clips many times and fix them up manually. They still ended up with a video that required no actual filming, and that’s impressive.
fucking called it
putting the pro in prognostication
Did they claim the video was unedited Sora output?
This is the article that I read at launch:
Has generative video’s problem with faces and hands been solved? Not quite. We still get glimpses of warped body parts. And text is still a problem (in another video, by the creative agency Native Foreign, we see a bike repair shop with the sign “Biycle Repaich”). But everything in “Air Head” is raw output from Sora. After editing together many different clips produced with the tool, Shy Kids did a bunch of post-processing to make the film look even better. They used visual effects tools to fix certain shots of the main character’s balloon face, for example.
I think what they claimed “this is what real artists can do with this technology”
Which appears exactly what this video is.
weird OpenAI neglected to mention that what the real artists were doing with the technology was spend a lot of time heavily editing and fucking rotoscoping its output to look barely passable
but the result was still uninteresting garbage that’s only barely notable if you think generative AI did it, and we’ve established that all the coherent parts of this were done (as usual) with the hard work of a team of uncredited humans
well, that's true from a certain point of view
marketing department said it so it must be right