sc_griffith

joined 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

interesting masto thread on doge's use of AI, from someone who helped build their LLM:

https://elk.zone/carhenge.club/@skiles/114203147063483693

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the phones seem to serve no practical purpose. they already have his number and I don't think you can conclude much from call logs. so suppose they are symbolic. what he would be communicating is that he's so fully pliant that he is willing to do things there is no possible excuse for, and not even for real benefit, just to suck up to them. the opposite of plausible deniability

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I get the reasoning and it makes sense tbh. but having been at these places what I experienced just doesn't reflect your theorycrafting. if my experience doesn't line up with "well based on human nature it should be this or that way" I'm going to go with my experience every time

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (5 children)

the subtext here that ppl at prestigious universities are less likely to be misogynists... it's not correct

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

they're almost identical. biggest difference is that barris is less charismatic (not being RDJ), creepier and more clearly a crypto nazi in the original. I don't think you're missing anything by sticking with the movie

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago

I AM A GOD OF THE INTERNET *five seconds later* HELP MY MOUSE IS MOVING BY IT SELF

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I reread (listened to actually) that book last week. it's probably qualified as "uncomfortably prescient" at every point since idk the bush administration. in particular barris is exactly the sort of psycho this moment was made for, there's not that much difference between him and musk

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I do like bugs and spam!

I will write them in the box.

I will help you boost our stocks.

Thank you, Sam-I-am,

for letting me write bugs and spam!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope it goes without saying but none of this is posted approvingly

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I agree. you've got a community built around a right wing coded topic, using the same sources and with the same delusions as their parent community, but they're mixing and matching bits of ideology and cooking up a left wing variant. it's incoherent but that doesn't seem to bother them

I always find this sort of wild swing across the spectrum fascinating. for example a lot of hardcore TERFs still think of themselves as genuine feminists even though anyone in those circles has for some time now been building the fourth reich. or the fact that there's a left wing GameStop cult subreddit. when I see these things I have to conclude that no ideology makes you immune to any other ideology

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

stumbled across an ai doomer subreddit, /r/controlproblem. small by reddit standards, 32k subscribers which I think translates to less activity than here.

if you haven't looked at it lately, reddit is still mostly pretty lib with rabid far right pockets. but after luigi and the trump inauguration it seems to have swung left significantly, and in particular the site is boiling over with hatred for billionaires.

the interesting bit about this subreddit is that it follows this trend. for example

 Why Billionaires Will Not Survive an AGI Extinction Event: As a follow up to my previous essays, of varying degree in popularity, I would now like to present an essay I hope we can all get behind - how billionaires die just like the rest of us in the face of an AGI induced human extinction... I would encourage anyone who would like to offer a critique or comment to read the full essay before doing so. I appreciate engagement, and while engaging with people who have only skimmed the sample here on Reddit can sometimes lead to interesting points, more often than not, it results in surface-level critiques that I’ve already addressed in the essay. I’m really here to connect with like-minded individuals and receive a deeper critique of the issues I raise - something that can only be done by those who have actually read the whole thing... Throughout history, the ultra-wealthy have insulated themselves from catastrophe. Whether it’s natural disasters, economic collapse, or even nuclear war, billionaires believe that their resources—private bunkers, fortified islands, and elite security forces—will allow them to survive when the rest of the world falls apart. In most cases, they are right. However, an artificial general intelligence (AGI) extinction event is different. AGI does not play by human rules. It does not negotiate, respect wealth, or leave room for survival. If it determines that humanity is an obstacle to its goals, it will eliminate us—swiftly, efficiently, and with absolute certainty. Unlike other threats, there will be no escape, no last refuge, and no survivors.

or the comments under this

Under Trump, AI Scientists Are Told to Remove ‘Ideological Bias’ From Powerful Models A directive from the National Institute of Standards and Technology eliminates mention of “AI safety” and “AI fairness.”

comments include "So no more patriarchy?" and "This tracks with the ideological rejection of western values by the Heritage Foundation's P2025 and their Dark Enlightenment ideals. Makes perfect sense that their orders directly reflect Yarvin's attacks on the "Cathedral". "

or the comments on a post about how elon has turned out to be a huge piece of shit because he's a ketamine addict

comments include "Cults, or to put it more nicely all-consuming social movements, can also revamp personality in a fairly short period of time. I've watched it happen to people going both far right and far left, and with more traditional cults, and it looks very similar in its effect on the person. And one of ketamine's effects is to make people suggestible; I think some kind of cult indoctrination wave happened in silicon valley during the pandemic's combo of social isolation, political radicalism, and ketamine use in SV." and "I can think of another fascist who used amphetamines, hormones and sedatives."

mostly though they're engaging in the traditional rationalist pastime of giving each other anxiety

cartoon. a man and a woman in bed. the man looks haggard and is sitting on the edge of the bed, saying "How can you think about that with everything that's going on in the field of AI?"

Comment from EnigmaticDoom: Yeah it can feel that way sometime... but knowing we probably have such a small amount of time left. You should be trying to enjoy every little sip left that you got rather than stressing ~

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

the cherries metaphor hinges on him willingly having eaten shit covered ice cream

 

shrink wrapped copy of "cryptopunks" back image. "All 10,000 CryptoPunks are presented together in this exclusive catalogue raisonne: a comprehensive listing including Punk, number, type colors, attributes and image hash." $100

why the fuck would anyone want a raisin catalog

 

lab grown meat is a vaguely EA/rationalist/self IDed neolib meme. in theory it will save the environment (ok) and prevent suffering (yay) in a way that concentrates capital (double yay) and involves a lot of tech magic (triple yay).

hot luigi is a big fan apparently. seeing this discussed reminded me of this excellent article which shreds the concept of mass produced lab grown meat. I haven't really seen this circulate much over the years, but it is really a masterwork of grift dissection. please enjoy

archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20241208141305/https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale/

 
160
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

i haven't played magic the gathering in ages but i still follow it for some reason. if you're not checked in with the game, here's what's been going on in recent years: it's been enshittifying. i'm fascinated by when gacha games (which this essentially is) start putting the screws to players. here are some of the ways it's gone down

  • the game used to have rigorous processes for managing balance, processes which sometimes failed spectacularly, but held up most of the time. empirically, that's pretty much gone. almost all of the cards that have ever been banned in the standard format have come from the last several years, and they printed a mechanic so broken that they errata'd it to cost more. to be clear, this is a game that is played with physical cards that the text can't be changed on. the situation was so dire that they just said "ok everyone should know, ignore the text on the cards, they are too broken the way we made them."
  • they thought a bit about how the majority of their playerbase wasn't playing the somewhat competitive 1 vs 1 style the game was originally designed for. instead, most people play several person free for all formats, in particular these days a format called commander. so they've been absolutely shredding these people's wallets and ruining their games by designing rare cards specifically to end up being powerful in commander. recently they printed a commander card so busted in various formats that the former friend of mine who designed it ended up falling on his sword, writing an extremely apologetic essay about how he personally fucked up by letting it slip through.
  • there's a whole much larger drama around the commander format that i haven't got the energy to go into here. the most tolerable summary is that they printed a card so ridiculous that the format dissolved and was remade under a wave of death threats when it was banned. i know that doesn't make sense, just trust me, or write your own summary of it.
  • they found out that the more cards they come out with, the more cards they sell, so they've just been cranking out designs at greater and greater volume. at any given time there is a massive chunk of cards that are about to hit the shelves, and which they're 'teasing' and fomoing players about. the game is about 30 years old and they've been hitting a pace of printing something like 10% to 15% of all cards ever, every year.
  • every once in a while they release joke sets, with weird or silly mechanics like having to yell things or tearing up cards. generally, these cards are not allowed in semi competitive play. well, they thought the most recent one would sell better if that wasn't the case, so they marked as many of these cards as they could as being tournament legal (but to keep the outcry tamped down, not in their standard format). one of these cards in particular, a goblin that makes you put stickers on things, was so miserable to have in tournament play that they ended up backtracking and banning all the joke cards.
  • they found out they could make a big chunk of money by ditching their own setting and making cards for licensed IPs. they've been printing ever increasing numbers of cards themed around everything from the walking dead to fortnite to marvel to street fighter to spongebob, which sell like hotcakes. people who are invested in the style and theme of magic the gathering aren't super pleased. again, to placate the haters, these cards are not allowed in the standard competitive format, giving people who want to do wizard shit a refuge.

the last bullet point brings us to today: just kidding, frog boiled, you will now have captain america and kefka fighting each other at your table whether you like it or not. reactions are not entirely positive:

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1gc3w97/universes_beyond_will_enter_through_standard/

something that's quite interesting to me is how few people i've seen bootlick for wizards of the coast in recent years. i've looked at reactions to other games enshittifying and always saw lots of defenders of the company in charge, with four lines of attack being most common:

  • they have to put bread on the table
  • whew i know this seems bad but i would be ok with it if they just gave us 2% more crumbs. it's sooooo close to the right level of abuse
  • stop being poor
  • bro, just vote with your dollar bro

i've been seeing very little of that in regards to mtg. some people have denied the pot was getting warmer, but mostly, people have just turned into haters. not sure why; perhaps it has to do with the small scale social aspect of magic. if you're playing marvel snap and having the blood drained out of your neck, you don't really have a group of specific people you're experiencing that in concert with; with mtg you do. it could be the strength of small scale personal ties that both keeps people invested in this game, and makes people angry at how that investment is being treated

unfortunately i don't see any reason that this anger is likely to put a stop to things. after all, arch-enshittifier facebook is still making ultrabucks, despite having destroyed its reputation on every possible level and despite constantly enraging its users. you can do horrible things to people and just coast! it works!

EDIT: this is election relevant btw https://awful.systems/comment/5086076

 

- curtis yarvin

 

the symbolism is 😗👌

archive link: https://archive.ph/jFO6f

 

archive link

https://archive.ph/n3Ffq

Judge Mehta’s Google decision is likely to be appealed. “Regardless of who wins or loses, this case probably has a date with the Supreme Court,” Mr. Kovacic said.

ah well

63
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

"subreddit rules. Speak pro-ai thoughts freely."

DefendingAIArt is a subreddit run by mod "Trippy-Worlds," who also runs the debate sister subreddit AIWars. Some poking around made clear that AIWars is perfectly fine with having overt Nazis around, for example a guy with heil hitler in his name who accuses others of lying because they are "spiritually jewish." So we're off to a great start.

the first thing that drew my eye was this post from a would be employer:

My hobby is making games. Every artist have spoken to regarding my current project has rejected currency in exchange for referencing Al-made images.

not really clear what the title means, but this person seems to have had a string of encounters with the most based artists of all time.

Has anyone experienced this? They see Al work and lose their mind, some even have the nads to expect to get a pay multiplier to 'compensate" for the "theft" like my surname is fucking Altman. Like, bro, I can barely afford your highly- accomplished and talented ass and would be doing it for myself if had your skillset, yet you reject my money with prejudice because pushed my shitty programmer art a bit further with a piece of software which can't even use to a fraction of its full potential? That's a greeeeeeeeaaa way to convince me to keep your artstation username out of my prompts to public models, even if believe that particular spirit of behavior should be illegal

also claims to have been called "racial and gender slurs" for using ai art and that he was "kicked out of 20 groups" and some other things. idk what to tell this guy, it legitimately does suck that wealthy people have the money to pay for lots of art and the rest of us don't

Could we Ban the "No Al" Symbol? Someone proposed an idea to me: why not gather evidence and present it to the authorities who prohibited the display of the Swastika and other hate symbols? I was impressed by this suggestion. After researching, I found out that there are organizations that can categorize it as illegal if we can show evidence of the harm it has caused. I believe we can unite people, including artists who have suffered due to false accusations by anti-Al rioters, to support this cause. If we all sign a petition, we can ban the symbol, which would prevent its misuse on platforms like DeviantArt and stop the spread of misinformation. Would you support this initiative? Would you sign to end ignorance and compel them to advocate for fair regulations for Al, ensuring that nobody has to encounter this symbol and that those who use it for malicious purposes find no refuge?Or is it just not possible? Let's discuss.

I really enjoyed browsing around this subreddit, and a big part of that was seeing how much the stigma around AI gets to people who want to use it. pouring contempt on this stuff is good for the world

the above guy would like to know what combination of buttons to press to counter the "that just sounds like stealing from artists" attack. a commenter leaps in to help and immediately impales himself:

'just block and move on' 'these are my real life friends' 'oh...'

you hate to see it. another commenter points out that well ... maybe these people just aren't your friends

'antis will always just stab you in the back'

to close out, an example of fearmongering:

So I made a post on a sub with a rule against Alart and the Auto-mod does this...I'm assuming its fearmongering right? automod: Your comments and posts are being sold by Reddit to Google to train Al. You cannot opt out.

 

This is an essay about 'village' vs 'control' techno-optimism I wrote for a class final in 2016. I was in undergrad etc etc but for 2016 I feel it had a lot of foresight, and there's still some bits here and there I haven't seen anyone else explicate. Thought some of you might be interested

view more: next ›