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What you need to know

  • As Dragon's Dogma 2 launched on PC Thursday evening, a previously hidden suite of microtransactions became available for purchase.
  • Things you can buy for the single player ARPG include fast travel points, Rift Crystals for hiring Pawns and buying special items, appearance change and revival consumables, a special camping kit that weighs less than normal ones, and a few others.
  • In response to the microtransactions, Dragon's Dogma 2 is being review bombed, with the game currently sitting at "Mostly Negative" on Steam.
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[–] [email protected] 358 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Dragon’s Dogma 2 is being review bombed

No, it's not. Review bombing is a reaction caused by an extrinsic factor. DD2 is just being reviewed negatively because of what's built into the game.

[–] [email protected] 152 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Yeah, too many “journalists” chuck around the term review bombed to mean when a AAA game gets a load of (deserved) hate.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Good journalists go back, edit their original review to call out the bait and switch of hiding the microtransactions from reviewers, and adjust their score accordingly with microtransactions taken into accout.

And release a follow up "article" just letting people know what happened and that they've updated the review, so it doesn't fly under people's radar.

Seriously, reviewers need to stop softballing when this shit happens. It's one thing for review copies to maybe be missing the final coat of polish. It's something completely different to completely leave out a feature known to be contreversial in an attempt to pump up scores, then turn it on after the initial wave of buyers can no longer return their purchase. Not like they spontaneously developed this shit since review copies went out.

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[–] [email protected] 190 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Imagine putting microtransactions, paid character edit vouchers, Denuvo, and anti-cheat into a $70 single player only game. They know what's happening, they're just trying to shift blame onto the community.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 7 months ago (1 children)

...putting microtransactions, paid character edit vouchers, Denuvo, and anti-cheat into a $70 single player only game

This reads like satire wtf

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Think of it as their very shitty solution to mods and cheats that so many dumbasses pay for. "Hey, why let those cheat makers profit off of our games? Let's make the cheats ourselves! But you know, for better profit, let's chop off parts of the game and call them cheats instead."

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago
  • Kernel level anti-cheat

  • Micro-transactions

  • Paid character edit vouchers

Ouch, I'd be pissed too if my $70 was still not enough to buy all the character models, let alone that I would have to pay to re-customize my character. They 100% deserve this negative criticism.

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 7 months ago

The very fact it's called a "review bomb" is an attempt at controlling the narrative. Fuck game "journalism".

[–] [email protected] 129 points 7 months ago (1 children)

$70 price point for entry, microtransactions for stupid shit, and launches with severe technical issues.

I'm so sick of your shit Capcom.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

When a game releases with multiple purchases along side it, it just means you chopped up my full price game and are charging me extra for what I should have already gotten

WWE 2k24 in infuriating like this. If you want the full game on release, it's actually like $150.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 7 months ago (17 children)

Thanks for letting us know. Removed from my wishlist.

Things you can buy for the single player ARPG include fast travel points

What in the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wowwwww that is noxious. Maybe I'll check it out in 5 years, but for now this is a hard pass.

I was so hyped for this game too. The original had something special if a little underdeveloped. I was excited to see if they could make it bloom.

Guess not anyway

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

"Pay us more money to spend less time in the game we made" Yeah I think I'll just pass on the whole game actually

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 7 months ago (3 children)

lol. First it had denuvo and now microtransacrions? pathetic

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Something was off with the way fast travel worked but I didn't expect they'd try to fucking sell it.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago (16 children)

"we won't have fast travel.."

FOR FREE.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 7 months ago (8 children)

They almost got me with preorder last night, but I was like nah I'll just wait and see in the morning. I love how i've been reading for weeks that "it's good they made fast travel hard", like preparing us for a fast travel MTX. Or it's the greatest character creator of all time, but to edit after you have to spend more money - the game is basically $100 canadian. Absurd.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

Don't forget the performance. One review was saying it's so bad that a dragon was speaking before his animation started playing.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Fuck, really? I mean, I'm not like a die-hard fan of the game(s) or anything, but the first one is still pretty enjoyable. And it's $5 on steam.

And it's a totally complete game, with an in-game barber/character customizer. You can't change your character's body type though, only the hair and skin colors/styles.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Never pre-order. Learned that long ago. Even games I have waited on for a long time, i'll still wait. Starfield was most recent example of that.

I think I will break the rule though for the factorio DLC, if they do a preorder.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 7 months ago

This is why we don’t pre-order :/

[–] [email protected] 61 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Stop buying this shit, and they'll stop doing it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (4 children)

They won't stop doing it. Think of how many live service games have failed. Are the investors going to stop drooling over that Fortnight $$? AAA game are made to please investors, not players.

Boiling everything down to econ101 serves to absolve the bad behavior or games companies as "rational actors" while placing the blame for shitty games practices on "stupid" gamers.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Damn... I was really close to pre-ordering this one and I held off basically just because I wanted to wait for information about the Steam Deck compatibility. So glad I didn't pre-order. I figured all of the glowing reviews that came out earlier this week would have mentioned secret microtransactions, but it seems like this was a very nefarious bait and switch. I like to give the benefit of the doubt and apply Hanlon's Razor, but it really feels like this was a deliberate and sinister act.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago

How's dragons dogma 2? ... To shreds you say... And how about the community... To shreds you say ...

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

Cant wait to play the next Monster Hunter and buy hunting permits at $2.99 for each hunt.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to be angry about microtransaction once the game actually runs. A 5800X3D and 7900XT should not be getting 20 - 40 FPS with medium settings at 1440p.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

Seems like it's just being accurately reviewed. How else are companies supposed to learn this is not okay?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (27 children)

For the character thing, as long as you don't care about restarting you can delete your save and force steam to overwrite your cloud save.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2054970/discussions/0/4289188517340869363/

The rest is absolute bullshit and I hope Capcom gets shredded for this travesty... I'm the type to give a game a chance, and I will play this, but holy shit the greed is disgustingggg

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Capcom really saw the positive hype they got with this previously niche tittle and decided to go all RE4 weeks after release on it day 1. There's not even a new game option, I feel bad for Itsuno but it's deserved imo.

You can get all items in-game but cheats shouldn't ever be a paid feature, I criticized Saints Row 4 back then, I'll criticize Dragon's Dogma 2 today.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Man, that's some scummy behaviour right there.

It was getting really good reviews as well. All they had to do was fling the doors open and count the money.

Activision did it the other year for Crash Team Racing Remastered as well, only they at least had the good sense to wait a few weeks after release. At least here you can cancel your order and request a refund.

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