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4 pane comic of dolan on the left and spooderman on the right

pane 1 (dolan): cum join opensurce cummunity!
pane 2 (spooderman): shure! how joyn?
pane 3 (dolan): Here discord! (with discord logo)
pane 4 (spooderman with tears in eyes): y u do dis?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Since we are on the topic of disliking Discord, what Matrix clients do you humans use? I tried both Element and Nheko (the latter of which isn't electron based), and they both felt slow, clunky and unresponsive.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I gave up on matrix, was too complicated of a setup and the site was throughly unhelpful for newcomers. I eventually got it but, the permission system was somehow worse then IRC and due to the federation aspect of it you can't modify the standard at all because then the other clients/servers can't recieve you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Are you using any other alternative now besides IRC?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Element, Beeper, FluffyChat, NeoChat, Cinny, Thunderbird

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thunderbird has matrix support now? 🤯

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

On my phone I switched to Element X because Element would take up to a minute to sync messages. I'm willing to put up with the reduced feature set, as long as actual messages fucking arrive in time!

[–] pkill 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I think I will try Gomuks, since I now also tried Fluffychat, but scrolling felt weird and on a touchpad had the tendency to swipe left on messages to reply instead of scrolling down and I was unable to resize or close the channel info and channel list, or change its font size (there also appears to be no settings button). Maybe the CLI based clients will be more suited for me, since I also don't mind using irssi for IRC (but it should be noted I also have no problems with graphical IRC clients like hexchat or others, which work perfectly fine on my machine).

[–] pkill 3 points 9 months ago

it had some stability issues, alternatively, also weechat's quite decent since it has quite long history of development

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I've heard this about Element from a lot of people and I have to wonder: Is that the mobile client or on an actual PC? Because I use it on my phone and it's actually more reliable than the Discord mobile app.

[–] technom 2 points 9 months ago

Matrix clients are slow and clunky because the protocol is heavy and overloaded. Upcoming sliding-sync feature will make them a bit more responsive.

Talking about specific clients, my favorite is Fractal. It's still missing some features though (like spaces). But it's getting updated fast.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago
[–] tengkuizdihar 1 points 9 months ago

I just use element right now, pretty good for phones and imo excellent for desktop (ux and usability wise)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Cinny. It uses Tauri instead of electron

[–] onlinepersona -3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I've actually had good experiences with Element except on mobile. Are you talking about mobile?

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[–] tengkuizdihar 5 points 9 months ago

did you just license your own comment?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Nope. Desktop.

[–] pkill 1 points 9 months ago

electron bloat