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Is Python's tooling incredibly difficult, or am I just stupid? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/programming

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So I'm no expert, but I have been a hobbyist C and Rust dev for a while now, and I've installed tons of programs from GitHub and whatnot that required manual compilation or other hoops to jump through, but I am constantly befuddled installing python apps. They seem to always need a very specific (often outdated) version of python, require a bunch of venv nonsense, googling gives tons of outdated info that no longer works, and generally seem incredibly not portable. As someone who doesn't work in python, it seems more obtuse than any other language's ecosystem. Why is it like this?

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[–] NostraDavid 1 points 1 month ago

Downside: "^1.2.3" as default versioning for libraries. You just pinned a version? Oh great, now I can't upgrade another library because you had to pin something in yours...

That non-standard syntax has been a PITA for the last few years. That being said: They created that syntax for regular applications (and not for libs) in a time when the pyproject.toml syntax was not anywhere near finalization.