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Do Europeans really give their height in cm? You'd think they short hand it like to like 1.7m or whatever since height is one of those things that doesn't really need to be exact and will change by a cm or so based on the kind of shoes you are wearing, or wearing shoes at all.
In my native language we say the equivalent of 'one and eighty-five' to refer to 185 cm of height, so basically we give it in meters.
Unless you happen to be 2 meters tall, yes, you would give your height in cm. You might round it, but you'd never say you're 1.8m tall.
Never? Why never?
Never ask why never.
Not when it comes to height measurement.
...Not when it comes to height measurement.
Lol, I guess I touched a nerve somehow, idk
Where I’m from, some people will still use feet/inches only for heights of human beings (weird, I know), but the most common response is in cm. For instance, if you asked me how tall I am I’d say 173cm, but I would say it like “I’m about a hundred and seventy-three” or “one-seven-three” - you don’t really have to say the units. Much the same as you’d say “I’m five foot seven” and you don’t need to specify “inches”.
Well, where I live, 1,85 m is less than average height, 1,90 m is more than average. It's also a noticable difference, especially if you're in the same height range.
That doesn't answer my question at all, but thanks for your input!
The answer is if you round up to 1 digit, these heights are the same. So we give height in cm's, because otherwise it's not a usefull metric.
Except numerous people in this thread say they and people they know give their height in meters. So I guess it's not really never then, huh? Just saying, try not to be so absolute about something so inabsolute.
If they would really give their height in meters, they would almost all be 2 meters except for the very short people.
I mean, you're free to read the comments yourself, but if memory serves, they use decimals. Of course, with the natural logic of the metric system, it's exceedingly easy to convert to centimeters. I just thought it was weird to be so adamant that no one would ever give their height in meters.
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That last one is my favorite because they say they only do it in centimeters and then immediately in the next sentence say they also give it in meters, lol.
The difference is, they say meters but with two decimals, which makes it centimeters.
Well no, it makes it meters, because they're saying "meters" and the number is in meters. Yes it's easily convertible to centimeters, you just move the decimal point. But to say "meters but with two decimals so it's not meters" is obviously, comically, inaccurate.
Well, if someone asks you about it, they'd like to hear a more precise number. They can easily estimate your height at a precision of 10cm.
1.8 is too imprecise. It includes both 1.80 and 1.89. do you think it's fine to approximate your height to the nearest 4 inches?
Why ever would a 6' 2" person bother with the 2"?
I just say "one sixty five", and so do most people in the Netherlands (most use different numbers though)
Same in Sweden.
Germany too
Bayern too
Bremerhaven does this as well
In France it's generally in meters with two decimals, so basically the same as giving it in cm
Not europe but yes, we do it in cm. Never heard people rounding up or down to the tenth though, so 164cm is 164cm, not 160cm.
Yes where I live, we use cm usually. Also height is almost always measured without shoes
176cm would be given as "eins-sechsundsiebzig" in German, literally translating to one six and seventy (yeah it's backwards), which works exactly like currency.
Not European, but from a country that also uses the metric system. We give out our height in meters, as you said. Saying it in cm would be okey for medical reasons I suppose. Also there isn't much difference in what unit you use, you just have to multiply/divide by 100, which is easily done in your head
Germans do go with meters when talking about their height but they'll give you two decimal places.
Do North Americans really give their weight in lb? You'd think they'd short hand it like to like 15 stone or whatever since weight is one of those things that doesn't really need to be exact and will change by a lb or so based on the time of day and what you've eaten.
No, we give our weight in pounds instead of ounces because weight is one of those things that doesn't really need to be exact and will change by a couple dozen ounces or so based on the time of day and what you've eaten.
No, see, here ounces compare to millimetres. If height and weight fluctuate over centimetres and pounds, and they do, lesser units should be disregarded, right?
Stone isn't a measurement in America, it's inorganic material. The next-heighest commonly known weight is a ton, or 2000 lbs. Not very helpful.
A better example would be if europeans really gave their weight in grams. I don't think they do, they use kilo's cause they don't really need the precision of a gram for something like that.
because grams are small, but 174cm makes more sense than 1.7m
Agreed, since 1.65 and 1.74 both round to 1.7m, but 9cm is a pretty significant height difference.
"Small" is extremely relative, I'd say centimeters are small too.
You always do it in cm wherever I've been. It's either directly in cm, as in 172 cm or phrased in meters, as in 1.72 m. You cab say you're around 170 cm tall or around 1.7 m tall, but the 'default precision level' is 1 cm
When using feet and inches, its fine to use precision of 1 inch as it's much smaller unit than 0.1 m.
If one says that they are 5'11" (180.34 cm), they can be 5'10.5" (179.07 cm) to 5'11.5" (181.61 cm) tall. That's 1.4% variance.
If using meters with one decimal place, and say they are 1.8 m (5'10.9"), they can be 175 cm (5'8.9") to 185 cm (6'0.8") tall. That's 5.6% variance.
Thus it's not really viable to use only one decimal place when using metres as unit, so in many languages it's easier to just say the length in centimeters compared to use two deeimal places.
That also explains why the guy in the comic is being an ass or an idiot by listing his height to the nearest hundredth of a centimeter. A half inch or whole centimeter are more appropriate precisions for human heights. In your example even, a real-world measurement of 5' 11" can't just be blindly translated to 180.34cm because it adds precision that was not there in the 5' 11" measurement unless otherwise specified. 180cm would be more appropriate but is still overstating the precision a bit. Using SI units without appropriate scientific notation and without respect to significant digits is kind of like watching a 3D movie with one eye closed.
Particularly for folks with long spines, height can change significantly throughout the day.
I use a wheelchair on occasion - when I’m unwell and use my wheelchair I measure about 3cm taller than when I’m well and have been walking!
I guess its just because saying "one-seventy-nine" rolls better off the tongue than "one point seventy nine" or "one point eight"
In German, you'd probably say 1 Metre 85 (Ein Meter Fünfundachtzig), or 1 85 (Eins Fünfundachtzig) to be more brief. I'm relatively certain that it very much differs from language to language, and probably regionally within languages.
Japan does too, at least from all the manga etc I've read. Not in meters either, just cm.
When the metric system was introduced in the UK, the schools taught decimeters, decameters and hectometers, not knowing that no one would ever bother with those.
Even if they are used rarely, they are still named.
So it is good to know they exist in order to explain the metric system.
I was still taught them back in the day in Belgium.
You can round it to 10's or 5's.
My licence says 183 cm. I'll usually say 180.
Edit: so the cartoon guy would probably just say 190cm