ayyyyyy
I see what you mean now, that makes sense.
being on equal footing
agreed. Now how can we level the playing field with a multi billion dollar corp lol
agreed!
And with Meta's resources and reach, they could stand up a Lemmy.world equivalent easily. Play nice, break their arms jerking each off the Fediverse. And once enough of the instances are reliant on the Meta instance, cut off everyone who won't pay to federate.
I agree with the second part of your comment, and have concerns with the first part of your comment.
I'm all for allowing others to subscribe to Lemmy or Mastadon content, which is why simply defederating isn't as attractive as ToS. I want others to see that their communities/intrests/heros/what have you/ exist outside of Meta. I want the average person to contribute even if they don't know how to set up an instance. What I don't want is Meta hosting content then paywalling it, cutting off others.
For the first part about limiting to one instance... Well FB is technically one instance from a "domain" perspective. They have load balancers and tons of servers hosting their "instance".
like I said before, I'm not a policy guy, I don't know how to solve this. But it would be nice for those who are to spear head this and rally up volunteers so we can get in front of it. If there are no solutions, defederating would be the easiest.
Not yet. The rumors are confirmed by Meta reaching out to a Mastadon admin, Kev, from fosstadon.org. He kindly made public the email.
Explaining regexs is definitely more of a strength than writing!
Complex regexs require more human intervention or better "prompt engineering" for sure.
I like to build up a regex by "show me a regex that does this. Add to the previous regex to also look for this. Modify previous regex to exclude this, etc etc." That way I can walk Chat-GPT by the hand on what I want. dumping a whole prompt on it gives me poor results
I too am worried about what happens when instances start beefin and defederating.
But if a corp such as Meta owned Lemmy.world and one day decided to charge others for the right to federate, then it is also shitty.
The predatory practice of Big corps is offer service at a loss and once enough people on board, force users to pay to keep using.
Current Lemmy(ers?) have to realize this and not post or interact with monetized instances to avoid putting their content behind a paywall.
Very informative, thanks for sharing.
The author is definitely qualified to speak on XMPP and ActivityPub but one thing I noticed is all protocols and technologies mentioned really had no other alternatives for communication. Users flocked because there was nowhere else to go.
Imagine Lemmy.world was owned by Meta and today decided to federate only with those who paid it.
It is in the power of users to host their content on instances that will not turn on them - which unfortunately means not holding discourse on monitized instances
I don't know how I feel about defederating but I would like this instance to have a Terms of Use or Policy that prevents anyone who federates with us to use content on this instance for profit. Or something similar to spirit of Open Source licenses.
The link to mastadon's blog you posted is very informative. I encourage everyone who peeks in this post to read it.
I don't necessarily agree with Mastadon's official stance because say the largest Lemmy instance (Lemmy.world) was owned by Meta. Once enough users relied on content from Lemmy.world, Meta could then start charging other instances to federate with it if they want content. Which won't kill "the platform" but will make information inaccessible.
Mastadon's stance :
We have been advocating for interoperability between platforms for years. The biggest hurdle to users switching platforms when those platforms become exploitative is the lock-in of the social graph, the fact that switching platforms means abandoning everyone you know and who knows you. The fact that large platforms are adopting ActivityPub is not only validation of the movement towards decentralized social media, but a path forward for people locked into these platforms to switch to better providers. Which in turn, puts pressure on such platforms to provide better, less exploitative services. This is a clear victory for our cause, hopefully one of many to come.
However I'm confused how Mastadon's official stance reflects their devs and admins because one of Mastodon admin, kev, from fosstodon.org, has been contacted to take part in an off-the-record meeting with Meta. He refused politely and, most importantly, published the email to be transparent with its users. Thanks kev!
excellent find. well done!
duckduckgo (who uses Microsoft's index I believe) is able to find Lemmy instances already.
problem is since every instance has its own domain you cannot search all of Lemmy or the more obscure fediverse. lemmy.world, beehaw.org, programming.dev are all different "websites".
I append "reddit" to my query when I want to search reddit for a human answer to a question. Can't do that with Lemmy, unless the instance is branded as Lemmy.
Unless there will be an org or volunteers that indexes federated instances and makes them available to search engines to they can be differentiated, finding stuff in the fediverse might be difficult...
if I could pin this comment I would