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You can give birth even in your 50s safely.

I never denied that. However, pregnancies that had no modern medical involvement in its creation become very rare after the age of 40, and vanishingly rare after the age of 50.

To wit,

“The rate of decline accelerates around the age of 35 and the vast majority of women are essentially infertile by the time they reach 45,”

35 like you originally claimed.

I claimed that pregnancies after 35 are called “geriatric pregnancies”, and that is due to the risks that they bring. This is a medical term, used throughout the industry for pregnancies after the age of 35

And fertility begins to drop noticeably after 32, and really begins to plummet after 35.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way#:~:text=9%20External%20links-,History,%22MGTOW%20Manifesto%22%20in%202001.

If you’re going to be referencing a hate screed by misandrists - and yes, almost every sentence of the Wikipedia article is either a gross exaggeration, a deliberate mischaracterization, or an outrightght lie - then you are operating wholly in bad faith.

Feminism is equal rights for the sexes.

It’s a female supremacist movement.

Have you ever seen Alien? That movie was about forced birth. Do you think a movement that expressly wants to force birth on women by fighting against their rights is the same morally as a movement that wants to stop forced birth on women?

And there is that outright mischaracterization, which is pretty much bordering on a lie, that I was expecting. Most MGTOW have no strong opinion against abortion, because a female exercising her right to abort can also release the man from a quarter century’s worth of unwilling financial enslavement. And many are fully in favour of abortion rights for both genders… which include paper abortions for men, which bring near-complete parity and equality of that right to both sexes.

It’s more than just Democrats, it’s society in general.

You can’t enlist the support of an entire gender by telling them that they are the source of all of society’s evils, and that they themselves are fundamentally evil no matter what, that they are all rapists-in-training, that the world would be better off if they were all killed, and that they are no better than vermin. And more importantly: that when they do something objectionable it is misogyny and bigoted and disgusting and (with some things) even illegal, but when women do it, it is a big nothingburger with zero consequences for the woman.

That’s how you alienate them and push them away.

And the alt-right has stepped in with comforting lies.

Is it any wonder that men have turned away from the left? There is absolutely no visible benefit for them there. So they have gone to where they are openly wanted and desired, where they are intentionally made to feel useful and valued… even though they are just pawns in a class war (Parasite Class vs working class), and will only ever be hurt by those they support.

None of that merits a response.

Ah, the “sour grapes because I have nothing to counter with” argument.

Still, you did take the high(er) road, in that you did not descend to an ad hominem as so many ideologically blinkered people do when their core brainwashing is directly challenged with real-world evidence. For avoiding that, I must actually commend you. So pick up a textbook and bone up on facts, and you won’t be caught with your intellectual pants down again.

Knee and backpain

Some people lose the genetic lottery in this regard, true, but unless you are elderly, most people can avoid back and leg pain by exercising, stretching, and taking care of your body.

standing out in a crowd

Counterpoint: finding the person you are looking for in a crowd.

needing to slightly bend down vor everything in most standard kitchens.

If you are under the age of 35, I fully acknowledge how the deck of house ownership is stacked against you. But once you own your own home, you can… remodel. Kitchens also come in Big & Tall designs, and not all short(er) spouses mind taller countertops. The kitchen that came with my house is sized perfectly for my wife, and yet she finds the height that woukd be ideal for my height to also be more attractive for her as well.

Unless you have a passion for cramped supercars or exceed the height of most door frames… why? The ability to reach the top shelf and things placed at height is just so invaluable. And provided you take care of them, knees and hips still allow you to rummage through things on the down low.

Now, if you’re so tall that you routinely crack your forehead on door frames… yeah. I could see why. But then the question becomes, what is affecting your coordination such that it prevents you from earning millions by throwing an orange ball through a netted hoop?

Do we need men to experience this as well

Being dead kind of prevents that, in addition to being by far the worse outcome.

“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”

- David Frum

I created a bunch of blogs myself, did all of the development and design myself, managed the servers myself, and wrote all of the content myself.

Sure sounds like labour to me.

And there is no requirement for labour to generate income immediately. A majority of labour is front-loaded, with income being back-loaded.

I still have one of them, and I receive around $60 per month from it despite the fact that I haven't touched it in over a decade.

Server maintenance and updating code to work with current releases is still “labour”. Because sure as shit you’ve been doing these things… no hosting provider is going to let you go 10 years with zero updates or patches to the website or the underlying framework that allows the website to run. Because failing to do that is how entire hosting platforms get rooted and infected with malware.

But even the most reasonable men I found who identified as MGTOW often had sexist tendencies.

And a majority of women out there would make these “sexist men” look like rank amateurs in comparison.

Just look at all the things that women nail men to the wall with, when considering long-term partners, for starters. Has to make more money - check. Has to be in a socially prestigious career - check. Needs to be taller - check. Needs to be stronger - check. Cannot be disabled - check. Needs to be funny - check. Needs to shoulder most to all of the conversation - check. Needs to acquiesce to the woman’s demands - check. Needs to be the one who shoulders all of the first-approach risk - check. Needs to “be a man” in many situations where any risk is involved - check. The list goes on and on to hundreds of widely-accepted “traditional roles” that men must occupy and conform to, in one capacity or another. And men are “not men” and utterly ignored by women if they violate or even push back on any of these “non-negotiable” points.

And yet, it is “misogyny” if a man asks most women to be in any way “traditional”.

That is the dictionary definition of society as a whole employing gender bigotry. Maybe you need to ask yourself where men’s sexism is coming from… because for any man with open eyes, we’re becoming rank amateurs in the gender bigotry department.

“Kill all men”

Imagine saying the obverse, with the gender flipped. In any society without a severe gender bias, both versions would be equally palatable/unpalatable. The fact that the above is widely celebrated and lauded, while the flipped version is a shining example of evil and hate, only shows where the bulk of gender bigotry is pointing. And it ain’t at women.

But even the most reasonable men I found who identified as MGTOW often had sexist tendencies.

And a majority of women out there would make these “sexist men” look like rank amateurs in comparison.

Just look at all the things that women nail men to the wall with, when considering long-term partners, for starters. Has to make more money - check. Has to be in a socially prestigious career - check. Needs to be taller - check. Needs to be stronger - check. Cannot be disabled - check. Needs to be funny - check. Needs to shoulder most to all of the conversation - check. Needs to acquiesce to the woman’s demands - check. Needs to be the one who shoulders all of the first-approach risk - check. Needs to “be a man” in many situations where any risk is involved - check. The list goes on and on to hundreds of widely-accepted “traditional roles” that men must occupy and conform to, in one capacity or another. And men are “not men” and utterly ignored by women if they violate or even push back on any of these “non-negotiable” points.

And yet, it is “misogyny” if a man asks most women to be in any way “traditional”.

That is the dictionary definition of society as a whole employing gender bigotry. Maybe you need to ask yourself where men’s sexism is coming from… because for any man with open eyes, we’re becoming rank amateurs in the gender bigotry department.

“Kill all men”

Imagine saying the obverse, with the gender flipped. In any society without a severe gender bias, both versions would be equally palatable/unpalatable. The fact that the above is widely celebrated and lauded, while the flipped version is a shining example of evil and hate, only shows where the bulk of gender bigotry is pointing. And it ain’t at women.