Instances aren't necessarily a thing in atProto because an instance usually refers to a single server. But you can see people's posts from selfhosted PDS/relays yes.
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If you can build your own or selfhost each of the following to read and push back to all of the atProto protocol:
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App
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Backend Relay
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Moderation
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Algorithm
And you still say that's not decentralized I'm not sure what you're looking for nor what your definition of decentralization is.
Open protocols and APIs seem pretty meaningless to me if there's a single point of control for the brand.
You'd need to expand on this more for me to understand you. Yes there's a single point of control from a moderation standpoint (labeler), as there is on Lemmy instances. But anyone can host their own ATProto relays and the Bluesky relay will federate with each other automatically.
If everyone migrates to bluesky and then bluesky says "of we're not doing that open thing anymore because of this new embiggened thing we're doing" everyone will still be on bluesky.
Not necessarily because the accounts are atProto accounts and you can migrate to another platform(albeit another doesn't exist yet) without data loss. As far as the Bluesky app goes it really just shows you atProto posts and hosts your data (similar to Lemmy instances) they as an entity just also maintain the OSS backend Relay crawler and more.
I really think a lot of people have this perspective that it's not decentralized just because it truly is a lot more complicated due to there being like 5 different moving pieces of decentralization (PDS, Relay, Appview, tbd labeler, algorithm) and they do a great job at obscuring it for regular users which is a great thing. And nobody has really tinkered around and set-up any sites or integrations with it yet. I'm personally trying to get a two way mastodon integration as it's possible but nobody has done a solid implementation (just somewhat gnarly bridges between protocols)
This isn't necessarily true. Just because their architecture is harder and not a simple server host does not strip away its decentralization.
They have decentralized the following:
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App access (can build your own or show openProto posts in your platform
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Algorithms
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Relay (backend albeit rumored to be expensive)
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More if you consider the domain name hosting stuff and media storage control. Also moderation is planned to be decentralized.
I've been a huge Moody believer for the past few years glad to see him get an extension.
Best of luck to you in the afterlife brother you'll need it.
Would love for you to describe exactly how it's more complicated. From my perspective I click a single button and it's set up. To log in I get a notification on my device, I click a button and I'm logged in.
Plenty more to go.
If you're referring to innocent women and children yes that's accurate.
The idea behind federation is great but in practice it's splintered communities far too much to serve its purpose at a large scale.
The unfortunate truth is protesting will do nothing. Just last year the massive college campus protests were brushed off as "kids who haven't grown up yet" by Democrats.
It's a pretty hot take but imo the only path forward in the US is a regime change if you catch my drift. At the end of the day you won't get a group of politicians to all agree to light their paycheck on fire. (AIPAC)
Also the people talking about added complexity? I'm convinced all the complaints are from people who haven't set one up or used one and are immediately writing it off. Adding one is a single click of a button.
Then to sign in I literally just get a thumbprint request on my phone after entering my username. It's far far simpler than passwords and MFA.
Used Mastodon for two days. Not a great platform imo. Been using Bluesky for a few months and having a decent time, but sometimes it's hard getting fed the content I want (not sure if it exists in general there).
Also have been a decently heavy Twitter user since 2013 ish