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Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley’s recent First Things essay, “Our Christian Nation,” may warm the hearts of Christian nationalists and confound historians and theologians who worry about continuing threats to the separation of church and state.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dear Josh:

Treaty of Tripoli, ratified by the US Congress 11/4/1796.

"Article 11.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And to be absolutely clear, ratification of a treaty makes all the language therein U.S. law unless struck down by the courts.

It has never been struck down by the courts.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Does that mean that the general aspects of a treaty become international policy? Like does the treaty of Tripoli act as legal precedent when establishing agreements with Brazil?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Pretty much all international policy has been renegotiated. However, no one has renegotiated that treaty because the Barbary States no longer exist. As far as I know, that doesn't make it any less law.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (1 children)

As an atheist lefty, Im proud to be considered this traitor's enemy.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.

  • Franklin Delano Roosevelt
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

FDR must have been a terrible person, his enemies HATED him!

[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 months ago (11 children)

The same Josh Hawley who tried to overturn the 2020 election? The same who egged on insurrectionists outside the capitol on Jan 6th?

I just want to make sure we are talking about the same Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley here, so there's absolutely no confusion.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Fucking revisionist, fantasy bullshit, call it out for what it is and QUIT GIVING IT THE OXYGEN OF MEDIA ATTENTION.

That’s how ya starve the beast.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago

I'm not sure baptistnews.com is interested in doing that

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

ignoring fascists doesn't make them stop.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (33 children)

America was never a christian nation.

and if he gave a shit about the founding documents outside of the 2nd amendment, he might know that.

Hell, "In god We Trust" only came around in force cause we thought it'd somehow magically keep the "evil communists" away in the 50s.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Such bullshit. The left isn’t atheist. The left just says you can believe in whatever god you want, or no god at all, just don’t tell us we have to believe in your god.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Exactly.

And this mothefucker is the type to finally make me stand up. You can have whatever religion you like, UNTIL YOU FORCE ME TO PRACTICE.

I will turn this nation upside down before I allow that to just happen and I'm sure I can count on everyone here to join in.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I’ll tweak your comment just a bit, “until you force me to live by your religious beliefs”. Being forced to believe “their way” is almost irrelevant if they’re already punishing you for not doing so. The end result is the same: You will conform.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, that's interesting Josh Hawley, but the whole 'separation of church and state' thing says you're wrong. I'm sorry you don't like it but you're more than welcome to go fuck yourself.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Consider the SCOTUS has now established "deeply rooted in our nation's history and traditions" as the test for whether something is constitutional or not... his viewpoint will certainly resonate there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Yes. It's disgusting. Judges are not supposed to be politicians and these Christofascists use some real pretzel logic interpretations of law to come to their conclusions.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would happily kick Josh Hawley in the dick, so I don't give a shit what he thinks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I'd aim for the balls, personally.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm reasonably certain that I can count on one hand the number of times Hawley or his GOP ilk have ever set foot in a church outside of a planned photo op.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Mr Divorcee needs to shut the fuck up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Very Christian.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Missouri has the lowest life expectancy of any state. Good job there fuckwit, your constituents get to meet Jesus sooner than everyone else. YEE-FUCKING-HAW!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Wait, there's an option to die sooner? Fuck, I'm not really seeing a downside. How do I get in this express lane?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Good luck with that, asshole.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Last time I remember seeing him he was running from the 1/6 “tourists”. He needs to become familiar with the guillotine.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (5 children)

These fascist traitors need to be put in their place.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

I'm sure Jesus would be so pleased to know that his image is used to bring power to the American christofascists. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Chicken shit Hawley can go and fuck himself

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why does he look like a half-chewed dog's toy?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

'Cause the dog stopped halfway through.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Rot in hell, extremist Christian fuck-face.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I'm pretty sure Mr. Hawley is just the sort that will appeal to whatever fears and hatred will drive his base to the election polls. Either he'll get betrayed once the Wolf's Lair decides his kind are the next on the purge list, or he'll get executed by the Allies for being a high-ranking officer in a fascist autocracy.

And if he somehow escapes, the Nazi hunters will be on his tail for the next half century.

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