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Depends. He seems pretty out of it right now and I don't know how much he would really accomplish. He's also pretty old and unhealthy.

But if he comes back angry and the people around him are effective, then yeah we would start looking for other places to live. I'm not trying to live in a Russian-style handmaid's tale.

I don't think it's dramatic to suggest Trump may actually put an end to our democracy though. Another Lemmy commenter summed it up best. They pointed out that we on the left may have disagreed with McCain or Bush, but we never once feared that they would seize power or leave NATO. We trusted them to at least keep the ship afloat and respect the basic tenants of our free and democratic nation.

With Trump, we don't have that. All bets are off because he's an unhinged narcissist. He would leave NATO and risk the Pax Americana that has stabilized the world for almost 100 years now. And he would do it for money, for negative attention, or just because someone told him he couldn't. America has some pretty major faults but China and Russia are not ready to take the reigns. Say what you will about the West but we at least endeavor to protect human rights. I think anyone who isn't trying to build on the current Western peace is incredibly dangerous in a very scary way.

I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

i'll worry about it if and when it happens. i have wasted too much time, energy and resources worrying and catastrophizing about things i cannot control.

What the fuck can I do? Just be even more depressed about the state of the country

If we make plans, and post them on the internet, people start throwing around words like "premeditated" and it just makes things harder.

I’ll sigh, shake my head, and think, “That figures”. And then I’ll go to work, like every other day.

Lose my last shred of faith in this country, mostly

Take a shot for every comment saying "Move to Canada" :)

The same plan I have every election, TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD.

Watch Democrats blame people they were actively hostile towards for not enthusiastically waiting for hours in the cold to vote for them.

Then watch the world's longest-running uninterrupted democracy with the world's largest military and the world's largest nuclear arsenal become a fascist dictatorship. Maybe I'll die quickly and have a chance to be envied.

Fix your messaging, Dems. Pretend he's a progressive and oppose him.

Well, I've got some rope, a candlestick, a revolver, a lead pipe and a nice knife; I wanted to keep my options open.

I already moved. It's not just Trump that's the problem, and even if he loses in 2024, or does in office, the issues still will persist. America needs to figure out how to make the judicial system work properly and norms need to be codified. Vast swaths of the population need to change their culture of "us vs them".

I won't be going back, the way things work with Republicans, you can't just move to a blue state, you have to move out of the country.

Voting.

Local. State. Federal. Like I always have. I also moved out of a "shithole" state in the words of our treasonous former president.

With China having a severe gender imbalance and a massive generation (age) imbalance, it's going to cause all sorts of problems for them soon. Big, big fucking problems. And Russia just had all their young men flee, die stupidly, or decide Russia might not be the best place after they've released shittons of violent offenders, lol. Russia's future looks dim at best. Iran isn't looking too healthy either.

So the bottom line is this: no matter where you go, you aren't outrunning a shift to a multipolar world, especially one where resources like fresh water and food will be getting more scarce as climate change fucks the world and countries get more desperate, particularly authoritarian ones that are losing a tenuous grip on their people. That shit always causes wars, because humans are too fucking stupid to prioritize science in any other context.

Countries with democracy and immigration and the means to defend themselves and their friends are your best bet. Our fate and your own fate are intrinsically linked because of that.

Usually I'd grab my bucket of popcorn and watch another 4 years of the shitshow that is US politics.

Unfortunately, this time the same kind of shitshow is happening across the pond in quite a few countries (not just the usual eastern ex-soviet states), including my country. Populist morons fueled by the Trump, Bolsonaro, Le pen, Orbán cookbook.

People are eating this up on social networks and voting for them. I feel it's going to get real nasty.

to continue to live my life

Set up monthly donations to the ACLU and Planned Parenthood, volunteer as a PP escort, open up my (Illinois) home to women and families who need to travel for reproductive healthcare.

This isn't off the top of my head, my spouse and I discussed it years ago, before the previous election.

I imagine a number of famous people will talk about how they're moving to Canada, and don't.

The same thing I do after every election, cringe for another four years.

Same as I've been doing since he won last time. Stay in my more liberal home state, extend understanding to friends and relatives who live in conservative states, extend invitations to the few who might need to move to keep themselves safe. Keep donating and volunteering with the organizations I've been supporting.

I have a friend who is thinking about seeking asylum in the US. I have encouraged her to weigh her other options; there are other countries where she has friends and family that might be more welcoming to her. If Trump gets elected, I'm not sure she'll even have a viable path to the US.

Fortunate enough to also have EU citizenship, so I've already made arrangements to leave the country in that case. Will keep voting from overseas, though.

continue being annoyed by the level of corruption and incompetence of the US ruling class while existing in a visibly collapsing empire.

Its a time honored american tradition to shoot someone wearing red clothing thats trying to tell everyone what to do

Wish I could say that I'd move to another country, but realistically I can't afford that. I'd guess I'd live life as normal but I'd always be paranoid at the increased risk of violence against trans people.

Nothing I can do. Just do my best to finish out at college (assuming financial aid is still a thing) and move out of the country ASAP.

Probably get sent to a concentration camp. Dunno if California will secede from the union to preserve human rights, if it comes between secession or letting the DHS collect all our immigrants and non-trad women.

Be a constant reminder to my neighbors to avoid authoritarianism. Continue to push for self and local community reliance. Keep pushing my local governments and organizations to remain or become more inclusive.

Something new though? Maybe support an inclusive civics focused militia near me, if for no other reason so that marginalized people can feel like they have a community that will really fight for them or at least help them defend themselves if things really get that bad.

Donations to the ACLU. They seem like the best bet for the hardest fight of preserving the rights of immigrants. Among all the other things, they have to defend against as well.

Being an immigrant I'll likely have my plans made for me.

Continue living in not America. Continue, as an overseas voter, to vote for things I believe in. Do everything I can to get ranked choice to be a thing everywhere and otherwise eliminate the firat-past-the-post bullshit that exists today

Buy a gun, I guess?

Send him Big Macs every single day and wait for him to have a heart attack.

I'm a queer immigrant so flee. I'm not sticking around for whatever comes after that unless we somehow get a significant majority in Congress

Start doing whatever I can to keep your conservatism out of canada

Keep working, drinking, and sleeping. Not much else to do no matter who wins.

My boyfriend is Swiss, and there's been a loose open conversation over where we'd want to end up settling long-term. A second Trump term would definitely add several points in the Switzerland column.