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[–] [email protected] 123 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Which is a terrible app. I made the mistake of buying a HP printer and that app crashes more than it works (and the printer doesn't work without it, of course).

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wait, you have to have an app to print? On Windows? Can't you just install the driver and print using the Windows print interface? I understand that they have software that might have extra features, but basic printing should only require a driver, at most.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Epson is doing the same. I’m not sure if you can get scanner full features to work without their app.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe not all the features, but basic scanning should work with just a driver. I have a Brother Multi-function that works on Mac OS without Brother software. I think I recall Windows having a scanner interface built-in.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Yes windows does but I reach for my work Mac when I need to scan because Apple did it much better than Microsoft in this case. It's much more reliable.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (6 children)

If it's a scanner too, you can't use half of it.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Most of HP’s printers have a “Basic Print and Scan Driver” that is listed as “For IT Professional use only” on their support page. I fear the day where HP Smart is the only option.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Try it.

On USB with the basic driver specifically, modern HP printers will let you use the device for exactly 10 print jobs before it locks all functionality and demands that the unit be connected to the network and an HP account registered.

Do not buy them. Find a brother instead.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Wasn't that on Wifi-only devices, where the USB was still there for mass production cost saving reasons?

But yeah, don't buy HP; message received years ago already.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Never use anything hp branded if you can help it

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I told my girlfriend (now wife) when we moved in together that i had over rule: you're not allowed to purchase anything HP. May the company burn in hell.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

Make messes, leave food sitting out, invite shady people over...just for God's sake don't bring an HP product into my home!

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Imagine running an OS that doesn't even respect you. I use Arch btw.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Arch has disrespected me every time I've tried to install it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The Arch Wiki spit in my mouth, pulled my pants up to my chest, and called me names.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

And you liked it

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For me it was the exact opposite. It did exactly what I told it to do.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

You told it to disrespect you?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

Autofellatio Linux crowd assemble!

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I wondered what was happening. I got a notice my daughter installed this app (under 13 account) and was like why would she do that. We don't have any HP devices. Brother for life.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)

At work we pay Microsoft thousands for developer licensees, have windows pro, and there is still ads in the OS.... Windows exists to service them not us.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Yes they are in fact doing this. I noticed this (working in IT) recently across several machines. Fucking Microsoft. I removed and blocked it immediately.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yeah Michaelsoft we get it, you own the OS not us. Now quit doing this shit before you get slapped with more anti-trust lawsuits.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

I'll never install a legit copy of Windows anymore. For personal use I am using trusted enough modified versions that limit bloat and connections to Microsoft services. And I probably use those once a month.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I started messing with Linux to build a home server a few months ago. I am now fully in the Linux/FOSS cult, and as soon as I figure out how to either run Adobe on Linux or use the alternative software, I am nuking Windows on my personal computers. The bloatware is insufferable, not to mention shit like this.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The Windows machines I manage at work have been auto downloading all kinds of shit like this lately. Microsoft is becoming really trashy.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Install Linux. Saying it yet again. Be done with this crap, install Linux, if really really necessary, have wincrap in a VM, and now enjoy your computer

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (22 children)

To anyone who reads this: I know everyone talks about Linux around Lemmy, and that you've already been offered to install Linux a million times.

I understand how much it puts you off.

But this time, give a try. For real. Try it, there's nothing to lose.

The reason we don't ever shut up about it is because Linux is just so much better that many of us don't imagine how we lived without it. Unironically.

Spend a week on Linux. Install Mint, or Manjaro, and run them - not in VM, use dualboot. You can easily delete Linux afterwards if you don't like it, straight out of Windows. Run it for a week.

And you'll be like us.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago

That would explain why my Win10 desktop recently had an HP popup. There is a HP printer in the building but I've never printed to it from the desktop.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (4 children)

11 now basically ARP scans any network you join, adds things like HP printers found on the LAN to Device Manager, as"unknown device" in some situations, likely auto installing drivers in others.

Can't think of a better example of malware.

Stay in school and don't use Windows.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

at least if it's auto-installed, you don't need to have your windows tied to a microsoft account just to set up your damn printer. there's some models where the stand-alone driver installer just doesn't work worth a shit, and the 'app' is the only thing that works (there's also a few that go the other way, the 'app' fails but the stand-alone driver is fine).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

If they let you install without a microsoft account. That's supposedly getting really hard to accomplish.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Seems like it's getting installed on PCs which have an HP printer nearby even though they never used it. I don't have any printer at home and none of them have any HP app in them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I removed the official Microsoft Store and use Bloatnosey. Seems much better. You do need to recheck after any update though. Sneaky stuff.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This doesn't super surprise me. I own a Tobii 5 eye tracker. Brilliant piece of tech, but it infuriates me that the one and only way to get the drivers and software for it is to plug it in and let the MS store just install them for you.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

oh is that where that came from

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