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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I rarely feel like it ever helps, and it's taxing on the kidneys/liver. So, I tend to not bother until it's bad enough.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My friend works out and takes pain meds frequently.

He also complains about yearly kidney stones.

I have never had a kidney stone. Where he's on his 8th one.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they're partly genetic but you can risk it. I have a couple of friends who have had their third or fourth stone and I've never felt so much as a slight discomfort on my kidneys. It makes me wonder wtf they're doing to themselves but I'm not one to judge.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Was he on narcotics? I'm finding no link between Acetaminophen or Ibuprofen to kidney stones. Just drink more water.

https://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsroom/articles/year-2023/june-prevent-kidney-stones.html

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30829133/

Ibuprofen is mostly processed by your liver as well. Acetaminophen uses a bit of both.

This appears to occur predominantly systemically in the liver [1,10], but may occur pre-systemically in the gut as well [11]. Ibuprofen is almost completely metabolized, with little to no unchanged drug found in the urine [1,9,12].

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4355401/

Acetaminophen (APAP) is normally metabolized in the liver and kidney by P450 enzymes. No toxicity is observed with therapeutic doses of APAP.

https://www.goodrx.com/acetaminophen/is-tylenol-acetaminophen-bad-for-your-liver-or-kidneys

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8669426/

Tylenol (acetaminophen) is almost completely broken down by the liver. During this process, a toxic chemical forms. Normally, the liver makes it non-toxic. But if you take too much Tylenol, the liver can't properly process it all. The toxic chemical can then build up and poison liver cells.

https://www.goodrx.com/acetaminophen/is-tylenol-acetaminophen-bad-for-your-liver-or-kidneys

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

i'm the polar opposite, if i have a headache/migraine or cold symptoms i pop an ibuprofen and suddenly it's completely gone half an hour later.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (10 children)

So yall are just talking about baby meds for minor headaches. I'm up on that prescription grade headache medication for my debilitating migraines, and I can not take it more than a few times a month without doing irreparable damage to my kidneys and liver. Sometimes, dealing with headache pain is the healthier option.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You must be on a preventative, right? Rather than just managing pain when they come on?

I've tried Nurtec, Aimovig, and about to start Ajovy.

Nurtec and Aimovig worked pretty well, though not perfect. If you haven't tried a preventative, I highly suggest seeing a neurologist, if you can.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My medication is just for managing the pain/alleviating symptoms. I have seen neurologists and have been thoroughly examined.

My migraines are caused by having received multiple traumatic brain injuries due to blunt force trauma and concussive shock waves from being blown up while deployed overseas in active combat. Unfortunately, nothing much can be done about this accept for trying to manage the pain.

The good news is that I seem to be getting them much less frequently than I used to, so maybe my brain is attempting to heal itself. I used to get a migraine just about once a week. Now it's only about once every other month.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (7 children)

First try drinking a glass of water though

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Water, apple, handful of nuts, Walk around for at least 15 minutes. If a headache isn't on the way out then maybe try to shift the problem to your liver with some ibuprofen or Tylenol but it shouldn't be the first thing people try.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Holy shit people. Don’t take medical advice from some Internet forum filled with memes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Is this advice? Discarded.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I follow that anime logic where I just need sleep and a massive buffet to get back to 100%.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Are you Naruto

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

.... but not too often.

If you have regular headaches, see a doctor. Could be hay fever or other allergies for example and there's stuff that works much better for that than painkillers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah even OTC drugs aren't necessarily safe to take daily and indefinitely. Depending on the medication, you can end up with things like stomach ulcers or even liver damage. Once in a while is fine, but if you're needing to take something daily, you might want to get checked out and/or try some sort of other methods.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

just make sure to read the information slip, and at least here in sweden the recommendation is to not treat headaches with pain relievers more than 9 days per month or it can just cause more headaches.

what i go with is just doing what i can to handle the headache/migraine without medicine, but feel 0 guilt about popping a pill if needed. Especially if i'm going somewhere or have something at home i want to actually enjoy i'll not hesitate to medicate.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Excuse me I would rather not build up resistance to painkillers and then be screwed once I REALLY need painkillers.

The headache sucks, but it's not wisdom tooth level pain.

Edit: I'm not taking about opioids or stuff. I'm talking about simple over the counter meds that aren't addictive but you can still build up resistance to. I already managed to have that happen and have one type become useless

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a VERY big difference between "pain relievers", NSAIDs, and "pain killers" which are opioids. NSAIDs are effective and safe if used properly.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not all pain killers fit into those two categories.

The normal headache pill, paracetamol (most notably sold as "Panadol"), is neither NSAID nor opioid.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's Tylenol (acetaminophen) for the US folks.

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[–] nul 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Absolutely, the risks of addiction are monumentally different and should not be conflated. That said, my sister definitely did get addicted to Advil in her teens and had to go through withdrawal. On the other hand, I haven't had an Advil in over ten years and in that time have only experienced a handful of headaches, each only lasting a few minutes. Chances are, I'm just very lucky. But there's also a good chance that if I resorted to Advil before meditation and hydration, my luck would run out more frequently. YMMV.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pain is usually a message, often that message is "This body part is damaged, try to modify how you are moving to not aggravate the wound" In those instances I dont actually WANT to remove the pain because its helping me heal faster and correctly. When its bedtime and its stopping me from sleeping? THEN I'll take some pain meds, as lack of sleep is also bad for my health

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be nice if it was that simple for everyone, but it isn't. Migraines especially are debilitating for me and I will 100% take my pills over trying to ride the pain.

Sometimes, I know why I have a headache, but most of the time, it pops up for no apparent reason. Always had been since I was 10 years old. So fuck that noise, after a certain threshold, I take ibuprofen and acetaminophen instead of suffering for hours.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just saw a doctor about this, turns out chronic headaches are not normal. It turned out I have an allergy giving me congestion even though I’m breathing normally but enough to induce pressure on my head. Go see a doctor if you’re having daily headaches.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

medicine on other side of room tho

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just sent this to my wife lol. She needs to hear it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I'm bad about this myself.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't take the headache medicine because it never actually helps with my headaches. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

A friend actually needed this lol, just take your meds.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Pain medication IS medicine!

There is no point in suffering.

Just because you are dependent on a medicine, does not mean you are an addict.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

As someone has had a headache since 1986... take the medicine.

And if you don't have any to take, keep talking to doctors until one of them listens.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Things a MF who will never ride in to Valhalla at the head of a winged horde would say...

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

There's no glory in suffering, but there's stubbornness in my heart.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Glory can only be found through dying in battle,

To Valhalla!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Spoken like a true someone who doesn't have secondary side-effects to headache medication.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm not looking for glory, but I have a weird (probably unscientific) thought that if I don't take a fever-lowering med, it makes the sickness go away faster. Because there's a good reason why my body is doing that. But that's about more than just a headache though.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

You might actually be right, from what I've heard. Fever, like vomiting and diarrhea, does seem to actually serve a purpose for the immune system. This doesn't mean you shouldn't take anti-fever medications if you have a dangerously high fever, obviously.

Note, I am not a doctor, so take this with a grain of salt.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The headache medicine doesn’t do shit anyway. I need a cold, silent room and sleep to make the headache stop.

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