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Laser Beams Deflected Off of Nothing but Air for First Time Ever in Breakthrough Patent Pending Process - The Debrief::An international team of scientists report that they have successfully used acoustics to deflect laser beams in an engineering first.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 year ago (2 children)

140 decibels. I'm sure some applications exist but it won't be a 3D TV soon.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In an ultrasonic frequency we can’t hear. But your pets and any nearby bats or rodents etc may be upset by it..

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't hear but still cause damage?

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn’t know the answer to this so I looked it up - yes. Over 120 Db can cause damage even if it’s ultrasonic and you can’t hear it. Apparently at 155Db the heat created by the sound wave can be dangerous as well.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Just a small note, it's written dB, small "d", big "B".

"B" is the unit symbol for bel and "d" is the symbol for the SI prefix deci, a tenth.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Trust this guy, when it comes to the small d he knows everything about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Oops, thanks for the correction!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In that case can we use just B. MB, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh yes, sure you can, 140 dB is 0.000014 MB. The confusing thing is just that the non-SI unit byte also uses the symbol "B" and uses the SI prefix "M" quite often.

Sometimes when I calculate optical power levels I actually use B in between. For example:

How much signal is 88 optical channels at 1.6 dBm of power each?

0 dBm = 1 mW by definition

1.6 dB = 0.16 B = log10 ( x ) --> x = 10 ^ 0.16 = 1.45

So 1.6 dBm is 1.45 * 1 mW = 1.45 mW

Then 88 channels is 88 * 1.45 mW = 127.60 mW = 127.60 * 1 mW

log10(127.60) = 2.11 B = 21.1 dB

So 127.20 mW is 21.1 dBm, just below the output specification of our amplifier, good, nothing should melt.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes. Industrial grade ultrasonic sensors are harmful to your health. They can be used, for example, to measure the water level in a tank. If you need to enter a place like that, you should physically disconnect the sensor first. You might not hear much of the noise, but you may feel it in your teeth or some other places.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weren't there some huge high power sonars that could melt people to goo?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, and hurt whales from the pressure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, so not all bad then

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Loud lightsabers?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Hard light dildos let's fucking goooo

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Man, they're going to have remake all the Star Wars porn parodies all over again.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Code Bullet? That you?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Light saber what?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yelling lightsabers at that loudness. All the better imho.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Fun fact, if sound travelled through space, the sun would be as loud as a jackhammer everywhere on earth. Second fun fact, due to the fact that we evolved on earth you wouldve evolved to not be able to hear that frequency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Luke!

WHAT?

LUKE! I AM YOUR...

WHAAAT? TURN YOUR LIGHTSABER OFF IF YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY

HELL NO YOU TURN OFF YOUR LIGHTSABER BOY

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Holograms or maybe molecular scale tractor beams?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (7 children)

considering the lab experiment with just one laser required a sound level of about 140 decibels that consume 20 gigawatts, I don't think holodecks are going to be a practical device.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER MY HOLO-WAIFU

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

"NOTICE ME SENPAI!!1"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great points, but you know how things go. Proof of concept is a bloated laboratory implementation, then the tech gets smaller and more efficient over time. Next thing you know the sound is outside of human hearing range and the laser projector is fitted to a drone.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More realisticly how things go, experimental research only works in lab conditions, clickbait article suggests it's coming next year, people make giant assumptions, people lose faith in science because the promised thing doesn't arrive

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Lol probably, we are definitely more on track for cyberpunk or idiocracy than star trek post scarcity socialist utopia

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to the article it's already using ultrasound.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

So they can only do holodeck simulations of EDM shows.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It may be interesting to see how humidity and temperature influence the laser (or even other gases as mentioned in the article)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So like, ten years at most

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It was the laser that's 20 gigawatts, according to the article, which is notable because such a laser is hard to redirect.

As for the viability of holodecks... Obviously the rest of your points are still valid, but one can only hope that someday we'll figure something out, the technology being impossible/unviable right now doesn't mean it'll stay that way. And this seems to show a theoretical possibility of manipulating light mid-air in the necessary way.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Horseshit. Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining.

Edit: this is more horseshit like the "room temperature superconductor" that was instantly debunked as a horseshit scheme recently.

Sound pressure waves cannot distort spacetime

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Space battles would be so much cooler if every now and then the phaser gets split around the ship instead of hitting the shields.

Would also work even when shields are down.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But that needs air. There's no air in space.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

There's an Air and Space Museum

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Doesn't need to be air "in space", there just needs to be air somewhere between the laser weapon and whatever it is you don't want the weapon to destroy...

... although it'd probably be easier to use a mirror. Maybe one pointing directly at the person holding a laser weapon. ;-)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Corner reflector. Send it back where it came from, without knowing where they are ahead of time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn... you're right.

Maybe they'll find another way now that they've found one.

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[–] onlinepersona 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, that's a 20GW laser, what about those handheld lasers? Would you still need 140db?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It would happen regardless of the power of the laser, but it would likely be undetectable at significantly lower power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Art of Manliness?

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