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I just made this post https://programming.dev/post/4307457

but it isn't showing up here https://sh.itjust.works/c/speedrun

I had a similar issue on a previous post but I didn't think much of a single failure and fixed that one myself by doing the search

https://programming.dev/post/4295735

but now I see it happening again and with a different instance I think there's something wrong

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[–] Die4Ever 3 points 1 year ago
[–] emptyother 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, that explains why I havent gotten a single upvote on any of my comments for the last 6 days. My lemmy.world account cant see a single programming.dev comment I have made anywhere (or at least in lemmy.world, startrek.website, and sh.itjust.works).

[–] Die4Ever 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, things are really slow because of this bug. If you could please share your experience with example links in the GitHub bug report it might help. Especially if you can get your instance admin to join in the comments and help with looking through the logs.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4039

[–] Ategon 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

(for people not in the discord or instance admin matrix since its been getting talked about there)

Other instances have reported similar problems

Im guessing its a bug with 0.18.5 instances interacting with non 0.18.5 instances.

  • programming.dev (0.18.5) - report about content not showing on sh.itjust.works which is on 0.18.4
  • lemdro.id (0.18.5) - report about content not populating from lemmy.studio and sopuli.xyz which are 0.18.3 and 0.18.4
  • midwest.social (0.18.4) - content not showing up on lemmy.ml which is on 0.18.5
[–] Die4Ever 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think there's something else going on, because I had the same issue with posting to lemmy.ml and they're running 0.18.5 too

https://programming.dev/post/4338663

https://lemmy.ml/c/lemmy?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New

[–] norambna 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm seeing this problem also when interacting with 0.18.5 instances! For example a recent post from programming.dev -> lemmy.dbzer0.com (which also runs 0.18.5)

I definitively started seeing this issue only after programming.dev's upgrade to 0.18.5

[–] Ategon 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

weird, yeah trying to look into this
its weird that it started since 0.18.5 shouldnt have instroduced a change to this

[–] lowleveldata 2 points 1 year ago

I have noticed the same thing. My comments since 2 days ago have not been sync to other instances. Works fine before that.

[–] aport 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a moment I thought 0.18.5 introduced federation-wide shadow bans.

[–] Deebster 1 points 1 year ago

I was getting that feeling too, which made me check that my posts were even visible. I'm kinda relieved it's "just" a bug. A pretty bad one, though.

[–] nieceandtows 1 points 1 year ago

I just noticed that anything in the past 4 days of mine isn't visible on any other instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It seems to vary between instances, even ones on 0.18.5. For example, lemmy.world and programming.dev seem to be struggling to talk to each other (can't see or search for posts, for example), but infosec.pub (which hosts this account) seems able to communicate with both.

[edit] infosec.pub can post to programming.dev and that post federates over normally. Posts from programming.dev on itself or infosec.pub do not federate over to infosec.pub, but can be searched from infosec.pub (whereupon they show up normally).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Still waiting to see the reply federate to infosec.pub...

[–] Deebster 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Local account replying - this showed up straight away.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After 14 minutes I searched for this post on infosec.pub and it showed up straight away.

[–] Deebster 1 points 1 year ago

And this one, now you remembered to subscribe?

[–] mark 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

IIRC, this is how it works by design. Posts don't get federated to another instance unless someone from that instance interacts with it e.g. searches for it, comments on it, etc

[–] Ategon 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thats only the case for communities, not posts in an already fetched community

[–] mark 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What do you mean by "already fetched"? I've been on the fediverse for quite a while and I've never seen new posts from a community be automatically federated across every other instance in the fediverse without someone from those instances interacting with it (e.g. following the community, searching it, etc). Can you point me to where it says it works the way you say? Not saying you're wrong. But would be news to me.

[–] Ategon 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is what im saying. The thing is with that community above the community has already been interacted with (fetched) in that instance with the op having been making posts in it for a very long time and all previous posts federated. It sounded like you were saying that happens on the post level instead of the community level

Im guessing that this is a bug that got introduced with 0.18.5 since it hasnt been a problem until now

[–] Die4Ever 1 points 1 year ago

To convert the process into Mastodon terms, a community is like a dummy user, it's not like a hashtag. Making a post to a community is like doing a mention tag to it, like @communityname@instancename, so the community's home instance should always see all the posts to it. (This is the part that I noticed wasn't working)

The community boosts every post to it, so every user who is subscribed/following the community can see the posts that it boosts, which means the instances hosting the subscribers/followers will receive copies of the posts, so federation is automatic there because of the boost.