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I'm what's known as a chronic hopper. I'm always on the lookout for new software, especially when it comes to browsers and Linux distros, but I'm here to ask you about browsers specifically. I'm fairly sure I know most of them, but I want to really know why you run what you do. In return, I will give you my experiences with the browsers that I have tried and why I hopped from them if I did.

Don't feel the need to read the list. I'll be more than happy to just hear your answers!

  • Firefox: One of the grand-daddy browsers. I honestly didn't hop from it due to anything specific, but more that I've used it so much that I needed a change.
  • Chrome: I used this very little. Just being on it made my skin crawl. However, I still keep it around in a container because some sites straight up tell you that you have to use it to access their dashboards or application forms. While that is now much less these days (as most things will now ask for Chrome or Firefox now), it still does happen, especially on dated government sites that get updated like... once a decade...
  • Opera GX: Yup, I fell into the hype. I think I used this for all of a month before recognizing it as over-engineered and needlessly bloated. It pulls you in with gimmicks and pretty lights and that's pretty much all it has. A browser that's literally built on smoke and mirrors and pushy advertising.
  • Brave: There's been a lot of huff about Brave lately, but back when it launched and wasn't very mainstream it was the smoothest and a relatively more secure browser than the competition. There was a time when nearly everyone ran Brave. The problem started when they began to opt you into gimmicks and extra things you didn't need without your permission. That was a turnoff for me. I outed before things really went downhill. -Floorp: A random find from exploring Linux for the first time. I was running Pop!_OS and found it on the store. I've never experienced such a smooth Firefox fork before. It really is barebones, but has a lot of customization built in. Instead of the custom options piling on one another, most of them change how it works on a foundational level. The style of your UI and tabs, side tabs, fading URL bar buttons, and a lot more. At it's core, Floorp is a stripped down and security first FF fork developed in Japan. I took the time to translate the TOS pages, and most of it is promising that there is no data collection. It's fairly vetted and trusted from what I've researched.
  • Vivaldi: Still one of my favorite browsers when I went back to Windows, but probably has the most bugs I've seen in any browser. It got better once they swapped to React portals, but Vivaldi (Windows version) would occasionally freeze my whole PC or else I'd BSOD. This was a combination of the browser's stability and making my own custom CSS for it, but overall it frustrated me more than other browsers.
  • Qutebrowser: Still one of my favorites, and a must-have for me even if its not my main browser. I was diving into the Vimium extension for Firefox, which in turn led me to Neovim, which led me to Qutebrowser. There's a few main points as to why I don't use it as my go-to. First, its not very good at squashing first-party ads. Even though you can combo custom ad block lists, Brave adblock, and python-adblock, it just can't seem to get them all. Second, I rely on my history when browsing YouTube and if you want to get around ads, your best bet is to write a custom shortcut that opens links in MPV/VLC. There are Greasemonkey scripts that should increase ad speed to a fraction of a second and auto-skip, but none of them ever worked for me and most are ancient.
  • Nyxt: My next logical step after Qutebrowser was Nyxt. However, I've never managed to figure out how to work it. I haven't really done any extensive bug testing, but when it opens its just a blank window and there's not much I could find for documentation on it. Part of me wonders if there's something that only trusted people know that gets it working, the other part wonders if I'm just missing some sort of library or dependency. From here I went back to Floorp for a while. -Zen: I was very excited when I found this browser. Another Firefox fork, it aims to be much like Arc browser, but adds a lot more on top of that. However, in recent months I find they've become a little too ambitious. If you asked me two months ago, I would tell you that Zen felt just as smooth as Floorp, but these days its much, much laggier. The scrolling is choppy, the pages load slow. I use the same exact extensions on Zen as I do Floorp and the difference now is night and day. I've also tested this on fresh, no-extras no-extension installations and the results are the same. Zen tends to change things and instead of letting the user opt into the additions or changes, they force the changes in their updates. That type of development model just isn't really for me. I don't want to have to re-figure out how to use my browser every few days.

So there it is. I hop a LOT. Honorable mention is Ladybird and I've tested it a little. It is extremely alpha, being just a portal with the basics you need for browsing, but I'm amazed at what they've done so far and very excited for it's release. For now I've returned to Floorp and am very happy with it. I'm very curious to know why you like what you do, whether its just because its what you've used for a long time or if there's something that you can't do without.

Also, please excuse me if this question has been asked before. I didn't want to necro an old post and I want to be able to reply and ask more questions! I've seen many posts discussing a single browser, but I want a more general view. I'm very interested, because the Lemmy community often values their privacy and their rights, which is a major factor in choosing software for me.

Edit: I feel like I'm answering very quickly, but want you to know that I'm not a bot nor using AI. I type at 110wpm in Dvorak. Typing is a huge hobby of mine and would never use AI to do something I love to do for me. I'm set on getting to 200wpm (100 was my first goal). That being said, I can't answer everyone, so I'm sorry if I missed your reply!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 minutes ago

I use Zen because it looks better than Firefox

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

Vivaldi, hands down my favorite. I haven't had any bug issues of pc freezes or anything. And I have maaaany tabs open. Built-in stuff like ad blocker etc means less 3rd party extensions, I cannot live without mouse gestures, the multiple workspaces is perfect for me with all my tabs open (neatly sorted). Only downside imo is that it's chromium.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 55 minutes ago

I use Firefox because I have worked at both Google and MSFT and want as little to do as possible with their products.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I use Brave since some extensions I use don't work on Firefox and I prefer it as well. Once you turn off all of the crypto and other bloat - it's the best browser ever, at least for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Anyone remember MyIE2? AKA Maxthon? Miss those early days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

I've been using Zen for about a month now and I'm very happy with it. I like the design and feel of it, and it's actively being developed all the time. Don't think I've had any significant bugs (except a few very minor ones) or issues whilst using it yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Firefox, LibreWolf and Mullvad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It looks like IronFox is getting more recognition than I thought. I'm glad, because its a great android browser. Is it on F-Droid's main repository yet? I remember having to add the IronFox repository manually.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Is it on F-Droid's main repository yet?

Still not

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Firefox: Windows 10 desktop PC, Ubuntu old laptop, Ubuntu old Mini PC. Opera is my second option if some pages with Firefox addons doesnt work.

DuckDuckGo browser: iOS, I tried Brave also but heard that the owner is douchebag so deleted it. Duckduck’s delete all by single click button in top right corner is awesome. All browsers should have it by default. If they ever add adblock, I might start using on my desktop pc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I checked out DuckDuckGo Browser a bit. The mobile version is definitely more polished than the desktop version. At least you can use the DuckPlayer to watch YouTube without ads. The main thing for me is that I need a browser that forces dark mode on sites and the last I checked the DDG Desktop browser doesn't have it, even though the mobile one does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, DuckPlayer is also the reason why I love the mobile version. I use it daily.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

Fiiirefoooxx

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Firefox but it's so slow on Android. I've just accepted there is no good browser. Just least annoying. And somehow that's Firefox even with all the useless crap and pop ups they keep adding

[–] [email protected] 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Number one on the list of why you should use Firefox, lol. Fuck Chrome.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 hours ago

yea, fuck gogol, fuck krom

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Chrome for pages in Japanese I need to translate.

Chrome/Edge for certain Japanese govt websites that won't work in firefox (taxes and other such via the My Number program). I mostly use edge for this just so I can have the other pages of documentation open to translate in Chrome :/

Firefox for everything else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious as to see how Floorp would work on Japanese sites. Its developed in Japan, so it should work good. I understand that there are still too many sites that won't work without Chrome though, it's a major pain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

The government sites rely on being able to use Chrome extensions, sadly, so it seems we're out of luck there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Is the built-in Firefox translator bad for Japanese?
I ditched chromium a long time ago. Luckily any gov sites I need to use nowadays have FF variants support

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Doesn't work at all on mobile yet and it's pretty bad for desktop. The first time I tried it, it couldn't even get the grammar of who was doing what to whom correct (it was about a court case and totally mixed up all the parties). Since I can read some and just rely on it for more legal/medical things, I need to have quite good accuracy. Legalese is at least as awful in Japanese as in English.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Heavily modified vivaldi. Vertical tabs on the left side. Side panels with often used tools. Autohiding UI, pop-out links. I cannot live without native mouse gestures and the Vivaldi speed dial. Opera also offers it, but that browser is unfortunately a shell of what it was.

Zen browser as a semi backup.

I tried using zen as my main browser for a month, but I ended up going back to Vivaldi. It's just so much better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

Ironfox on phone, Librewolf on computer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Qutebrowser and Firefox depending on what I'm browsing as qutebrowser is nicer but firefox has better adblock and addon support. Firefox with tridactyl is really good these days and very close to qutebrowser ux quality. Chromium for web development as chrome devtools are still unmatched unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You've just changed my life with Tridactyl. It even has themes... This is what I'm missing. I can't wait to try this. I love Qutebrowser, but no matter what custom lists I add (even using all three list types), I can't get it it block everything. And I can't find a Greasemonkey youtube script that works.

Tridactyl is going to be so much fun. Thank you!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Glad to expose it to more people - it's truly great!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in love with Vim shortcuts as is. Having a bit of trouble figuring it out, though. Trying to track down the config folder. I have firefox-tridactyl added on Arch, but I also just installed it as an extension through Floorp. No idea where I'm supposed to find the configs for either. I'd like to make a theme using my custom astigmatism-friendly colors.

Well, I've been through the Arch sacred texts, so this won't be new to me. Time to get some reading in, lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Oh it's definitely possible. Its also just firefox so you can apply all firefox styling things like Chrome.css edits. I have mine setup so it's completely borderless like qutebroeser unless you press ctrl+l to open the location bar for extension gui controls etc. With local client extension it can also communicate between firefox windows so you have global tab list across just like qutebrowser too! It's very well made.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Zen, a heavily modified firefox. A different design paradigm than every other browser, which I personally like. Easy hot keys, runs on any OS, lots of customizability.

Needless to say I'm a big fan!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, I never thought I'd be a vertical tabs fan, but I am really loving it in combination with their compact mode. Really nice layout with the containers, pinned tabs and essential tabs! Also really digging the Glance feature and floating URL bar. I'm really looking forward to folder support!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

I keep Zen around for the same reason. However, right now its fairly laggy and buggy so I keep checking back after updates.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Browser is the one of the few softwares I'm picky about and won't change. I've used Firefox for so many years now, my entire workflow revolves around it.

Containers has been a game changer for me. The screenshot tool is also excellent.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Librewolf. It does everything i need, and nothing i don't. It doesn't have bloatware or adware, and it respects my privacy. That's all I care about, besides that it can still do everything I need a browser to do.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Cromite. A de-googled, hardened fork of Chromium. Not perfect by any means. But it gets the job done admirably.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Always been Firefox for its reliability and it has just the features I need and want from a Browser. Switched to Floorp for a few months because of its "tab spaces" but with Firefox's new tab grouping feature it has been my main again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Librewolf/firefox and Ironfox on Android because

  • Customizable and very easy to config (you can change the firefox ui via Chrome css and the browser stuff in about:config)
  • Privacy (Mainly Librewolf and ironfox)
  • Modern and still has ublock origin and noscript (aka manifest v2)

But i may rarely use a chromium based browser (Cromite,Vivaldi for example) i might even use Orion if it comes to Linux and Android

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (7 children)

There was a time when nearly everyone ran Brave

Wut

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Forefox, also Chromium occasioanly of I am in a hurry and some asshat makes it difficult to use Firefox.

Playing with Zen.

My OS is Linux Mint

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

Ironfox on mobile and qutebrowser on my computer.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Firefox.

Because it's not Chromium based so it's not subject to any changes to the underlying code that might do something stupid like stop ad blockers from working.

I had been using FireFox since it's launch. The only reason I ever switch to Chrome originally was because, at the time, Firefox was crashing like every 10 minutes after an update it had. Chrome ended up being faster and, at that time, used less resources.

Switched back the moment news about Manifest V3 started being reported on a few years back.

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