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[–] [email protected] 128 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Who could have guessed that all the surveilance would be used by fascism? Ohh wait, everybody could have.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think we've known this about Ring cameras for awhile now at least. Lowkey I kinda seethe about any neighbors buying that spyware shit. It's not like the fucking cops give a singular shit about home robberies anyways.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But when you do experience a home invasion they will blame you not installing Spyware on your front door for why they won't bother investigating.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

And if you do have said spyware, the robber could be holding up his drivers license reciting his social security number while doing it on video and the cops still wouldn't bother pursuing the lead.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

I think we’ve known this about Ring cameras for awhile now at least.

Absolutely. Anything that can be hacked by some uneducated douche is going to be exploited by the government.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The thing is that nobody is fighting it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Americans won't fight it. Dipshits keep saying that there will be a civil war if things escalate. That will never happend. The Trump protests have been pitiful.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They have a second amendment for just such an occasion, but they allowed their first amendment to be limited against calling for rebellion. Now the guns just kill the plebs, kids and bystanders.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Or the 2A people are perfectly content with their place in a fascist society.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

All is a bit of a stretch. I imagine a big chunk of surveillance is privately owned and not even on the network. At least the cast majority I have installed over the years are usually isolated or standalone networks.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago

Not even six months in and we already got the ai surveillance state lol

[–] [email protected] 96 points 3 days ago (2 children)

and this is why my security system will never connect to the Internet.

I've had cops ask for my footage before that sneer at me sending them the raw files. "why can't you just pull up the app?" or my favorite, "you should use ring, then we can just send a request to them for the footage."

sure, pig. sure. I'll open my home as a part of your distributed network surveillance botnet. /s

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

you should use ring, then we can just send a request to them for the footage."

YIKES, thats whats called a weird flex.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is surprising how difficult most camera companies have made it to avoid their subscription services.

Multiple companies that used to offer local rstp streaming have summarily removed support in firmware upgrades without notifying their customers. Even companies that support it (like Foscam) demand developer agreements be signed to get basic camera command information. Tp-link supports rstp but requires an phone app and Internet connection to configure their cameras.

Like you, I will never connect my cameras to the Internet, but we are slowly approaching a time when that by itself will be a cause for police investigation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

and that is when I'll diy should I need any foss cameras.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I learned about VPNs and torrenting thanks to corporations like EA releasing trash with a price tag on it, suppose I’ll start reading up on low voltage security systems so I can build my own, thanks for the tinkering idea fascists 👍

[–] [email protected] 112 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 110 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All those decades many of us spent warning about neoliberals and conservatives working hand in hand to build big brother FOR fascism fell on deaf ears...

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my future is ruined.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago

There is so many damn things on the list, like why do you need 700,000+ ways to ruin the future

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 62 points 3 days ago (6 children)

If America is so scared of China, why are we hell bent in becoming China?

[–] vivendi 18 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Something happens Americanly in America

Americans: "What are we, a bunch of üntermench asians???"

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

But we're doing it for profit, so it's OK.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Their problem with China is the supposed atheism, and that they're not christian fundamentalists.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

just without the hope in the future, investment in human capital, rise in living standards etc..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

The same reason this administration does all the things they point their finger and accuse everyone else of doing. They're traitorous scumbags and hypocrites.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A few years ago in SanDiego a proposal to install cameras came into being. They said the things were there for meteorology and security. The popo had to get a warrant to use the evidence on a case by case basis.

But soon enough:

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdpd-gets-more-control-over-surveillance-systems/3703267/

If you don't want this in your community or state, stand up for it. Say no to speed cameras, license plate readers etc. Those things are what keep Korean people under the government's thumb:

They carry ponchos and umbrellas even when its not raining. They do it to protect their own against cameras and AI.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Can wait till they ban umbrellas

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It’d be a shame if anonymous types started working on poisoning all publicly accessible cameras with ai poison pills that brick whatever model you try to run on the footage

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I read that glow in the dark material will trigger an ir motion sensor. So don't plant small flags coated with glow in the dark paint across from the cameras because it will cause them to take and send thousands of useless images and make them think their camera is broken.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

I work in security engineering, including massive video systems. With any commercial unit made in the last 5 years and any software past entry level consumer grade this is a non-issue. Especially if someone is using descriptive visual search when pulling up video vs just scanning through every motion event.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Most of them will trigger from reflected IR, which is easy to do with some metallic mylar. Those emergency blankets cut into strips should work like a charm.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or, they'll just develop downstream garbage filters and effectively ignore the little flags. Sure, some energy will be wasted, but it won't be occupying too many analyst brain cells.

Source: I have such a setup at home. My camera goes crazy detecting motion in the dark, CPU usage goes up. Main thing I notice? CPU temp rises from 50C to 55C. That's it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

While they're at it, why not just hack the government to reverse last year's election, amirite?

I know most of us loved Mr Robot and watching dinozzo and abby double team a keyboard and Wolverine getting a blowy and all that fun stuff, but that really isn't how things work.

These aren't off the shelf pre-trained models. The model is a big part of the company's product and, increasingly, the cost of training is being partially offloaded to customers under the guise of "tune the model to your data".

And IF we have a Bones situation where someone has inscribed a virus onto human remains to destroy a one of a kind machine or whatever: That is what version control is for. "Hmm. The May 2025 model isn't working. Okay, switch back to April"


Also, these "models" are a lot closer to just running OCR on a feed and logging which traffic camera saw one of the flagged license plates.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You’re right. People should just smear Vaseline on the cameras.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Bingo. Just make sure you are masked up and know WHERE you are masking up.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

https://deflock.me/

Add any that aren't shown by submitting them to OpenStreetMap.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My residence has a Ring doorbell. I wish that I owned the house, so that it was never installed in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I read recently that the lidar on many self driving cars can wreck the CCD on most phones. I don't know how it works, but maybe parking one of the cars by your front door will solve your problem.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Stay strapped

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Green high powered lasers, they can burn cmos sensors. Also the iPhone and some car lidar sensors can burn cmos sensors.

Not the question is if the Flock plate readers are susceptible to this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

They use a basic ir sensor to trigger the camera, they're just a cheap trail camera that sends images when motion is detected. You could put a black sticker over the ir sensor and then they would be wondering why it's not taking photos.

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