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  • Nick Clegg, former Meta executive and UK Deputy Prime Minister, has reiterated a familiar line when it comes to AI and artist consent.
  • He said that any push for consent would “basically kill” the AI industry.
  • Clegg added that the sheer volume of data that AI is trained on makes it “implausible” to ask for consent.
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Can't they just write an 'AI' to ask an artist for permission then? I'll bet they can. It's just that most artists will say no unless they get paid. So, their business model, based on theft, is not sustainable. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Sounds like a plan!

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The audacity... If our technology isn't allowed to break the law, it will fail. Therefore we should change the law.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, I know I’m doing something illegal (stealing and reselling IP) but it’s in service of something legal (continuing to be rich). You can’t punish me for doing bad things while rich, it would undermine your entire legal system.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

The issue is that they want to change the law only for themselves. Distributing a partially reverse-engineered, cleansed from evil, modded and made good version of Windows NT that would give us the feeling of W2K and compatibility with Windows device drivers, for example, they don't want to make legal.

Generally yes, laws are subject to common sense and are changed when common sense dictates so.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

Fuck Nick Clegg. Fuck that guy into the fucking sun.

Back in 2010 he managed to surf a wave of genuine optimism from young British voters who wanted something less shit, and found himself in a position where he could have brought about some genuine change for the better.

Instead that cunt hitched his wagon to the fucking Tories, who straight away announced an increase to university tuition fees. And who then went on to spend 15 years raping and pillaging the country like only fucking Tories can.

So yeah, fuck Nick Clegg.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Yay, kill it please.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

My permission costs $2.50 for every time AI reads my text or uses it in the background. Thank you! Come again!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Ah, if it isn’t my old friend Mr. Nick Clegg, with a dick for a face and an ass for a head!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago

Bank robbers say laws against bank robbery will kill bank robbery.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago

Pure entitlement mindset.

If your business is not able to stay afloat while providing fair compensation to those whose labor is used, whether employee, co-owner, or third-party, you are not entitled to keep running it. Society doesn't have a duty to prop up wealthy thieves.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Using the same logic, it is "implausible" that we would not take money from those who have it and give it to the sheer volume of people who need it.

Oh. Suddenly it doesn't work that way. Huh. Funny how that is.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Fine then, kill it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (6 children)

If I had a gun with 3 bullets and I was in a room with Meta, Hitler and Bin Laden. I would shoot Meta thrice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

I would shoot hitler twice, then bin laden, then beat meta to death with the gun because it would hurt more.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

There's a thread of thought that pops up in pro-AI posters from time to time: technology can't go backwards. The implication being that the current state of AI can only improve, and is here to stay.

This is wrong. Companies are spending multitudes of piles of cash to make AI work, and they could easily take their ball and go home. Extending copyright over the training data would likely trigger that, by the industry's own admission.

No, self-hosted models are not going to change this. A bunch of people running around with their own little agents aren't going to sustain a mass market phenomenon. You're not going to have integration in Windows or VisualStudio or the top of Google search results. You're not going to have people posting many pics on Facebook of Godzilla doing silly things.

The tech can go backwards, and we're likely to see it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

Also Clegg

asking women for permission would ruin my sexlife.

probably.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I doubt it. With that $500 billion dollar grant, you can hire people to make art to train on. That's a LOT of money.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Well let's hope it will.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ha... He was the Lib Dem poster boy for a good decade. And they're something akin to pro-business libertarians. I wonder what Lib Dem Dep PM Clegg would have said to this!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He was the poster boy because he managed to rise to the rank of completely irrelevant, the highest level of office any lib dem has ever achieved.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

AI is not just limited to these overhyped plagiarism machines. Will consent laws kill vision systems? Will they kill classifiers? Will they kill gradient descent? No, they won't.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I’m not a fan of intellectual property law. I’m down to abandon it, once we establish an artist stipend to pay a regular salary for artists to live a life of dignity.

Maybe introduce a tax on AI to pay for it.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How did the media industey call pirates? Parasites?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Don't copy that floppy" funded by rich people, or the more recent "You wouldn't download" with pirated song and font. Fucking hypocrites.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago
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