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  • Nick Clegg, former Meta executive and UK Deputy Prime Minister, has reiterated a familiar line when it comes to AI and artist consent.
  • He said that any push for consent would “basically kill” the AI industry.
  • Clegg added that the sheer volume of data that AI is trained on makes it “implausible” to ask for consent.
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Then it should die.

This is like saying "if we had to ask for consent, the human race would die." Fucking creepy, rapist vibes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

Great, let's do that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Is this going in for a vote? Where do I vote?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 hours ago

Cool, so I'll get started on building an automated business that sells cheap access to all the music, movies and shows on the streaming services.

Getting consent for each title would basically kill my business and would be implausible, so I'll just assume it's ok.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

Kill the AI industry? Sweet. As an artist I do not consent.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 hours ago

If a business cannot survive without breaking the law, then it is not a business but a criminal organisation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

So I can steal all their shit too, right? It would "Implausible" for me to do so.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

And not asking for it will kill whatever remains of the creative industries.

What do you want, a few years of ai slop followed by the more or less rapid decline of the internet (as it is overwhelmed with model collapse creative works and untrustable content) that will afford the likes of Clegg (in his role of 'meta' executive) a huge payout, or creative people having any hope of a sustained ability to make a living?

I know what I would prefer and I also know what is most likely going to happen. This is the result of decades of neo-liberal fossil-fuel-powered capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago

He admit it!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 12 hours ago

I'm ok with "ai" dying

[–] [email protected] 30 points 13 hours ago

I have a proposition. Raid them with police and search their computers for stolen data like you would do with your citizens.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 hours ago

So… what’s the down side to this bill?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

oh noes

Look, these goddamn assholes have got in their head that they have a right to profit.

NOBODY HAS A RIGHT TO PROFIT.

You have a right to try to create a profit and there are rules to that. You're gonna lose your billions in investment if you can't plaigerize content?....fuck you, your loss, and you shoulda fucking known better when the idea was presented to you.

Assholes

[–] [email protected] 15 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

correction: will kill people's attempts to make billions out of other people's art. Otherwise inquisitive people will continue to do non-profit research this way or another.

Actually here is a question to you: Would you be ok if the law stated you don't need permission if it is non-profit and open source? Yea I thought so bitch.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 12 hours ago

Oh, so it'd be ok to get movies, pictures, books, etc. without asking the right owners for us too? GREAT.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 15 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 31 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

If being declined concent is going to kill your industry then maybe your industry deserved to die.

Fucking rapist mentaility right there.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Same thing for most of billionaires' income sources.

"Respecting [insert human right] would kill [insert industry]."

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

If your industry can't exist without theft then your industry doesn't deserve to exist, pretty simple.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? No, says the man on Wall Street; it belongs to the shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of ALL the brows?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 17 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 16 hours ago

Let's hope it does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I was thinking no fucking way this is the same Nick Clegg I'm thinking of, and then I read the description 💀

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

If it helps, he became a Facebook exec after losing his seat in the British Parliament.

A good example of the revolving door, but at least it wasn't the other way around...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

Ah, if it isn’t my old friend Mr. Nick Clegg, with a dick for a face and an ass for a head!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Yay, kill it please.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 15 hours ago

Fine then, kill it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago

Can't they just write an 'AI' to ask an artist for permission then? I'll bet they can. It's just that most artists will say no unless they get paid. So, their business model, based on theft, is not sustainable. Got it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 22 hours ago (10 children)

If you're giving me the choice of killing the AI industry or artists it doesn't seem like a hard decision. Am I missing something?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago

A lot of AI fanboys secretly think that artists who rely on public funding to make a living deserve to be raped by gen AI companies.

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