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I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
"We, a company that has allowed AI generated propaganda to run rampant and destabilize global politics, need to make sure you are a real person so you must provide us with a video proving you are real that we totally wont use for AI and facial recognition purposes."
I 100% trust this, Zuckerberg is fine upstanding man
Yup. I can attest that he's never said about his users, "dumb fucks trust me"
I quit facebook 10 years ago. I am 67. If this old fart can quit so can you.
Don’t make it easier for the american fascist government to identify you even further on Facebook.
I am now, and will forever remain, a child of the old internet.
When your username was all that other people knew about you, and you didnt even like them having that for anonymity reasons, lol.
I continue to be baffled about how people on the internet went from "Don't tell anyone, anything about you!" to "Hi My name is Dan Rutherford, I like at 5849 Blasse Rd, in Tarry Birch,Kenfucky. Heres a picture of myself, my wife, my children, and a list of everything expensive I have in the house. Also my childs bedroom window wont lock. Anyway, we're going on a 3 week european vacation now! Expect hourly updates!
PS: Heres my birthday, and my childhood elementary school, where I was born, and the name of my childhood dog. In case anyone needs to answer my security questions"
Fb is nothing more than promoting right wing propaganda.
Let them continue filling the site with bots. Dont use that garbage.
To confirm your identity...
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
I get it. They want to combat bots and potentially even detect if a person is old enough to use the platform. However Facebook has eroded absolutely any trust that there's no way I'd give them this. Not that I use Facebook anyway.
There's no way they want to combat bots. You report bot content and they're like "nah, this doesn't go against our community guidelines" all the fucking time.
What do you expect from a company that removed independent fact-checkers, wanted to add AI profiles as users, amongst other things? I think they relish bots and the engagement they bring to the platform, completely blind-sided by how bad it looks for them long-term.
Zuckerborg is literally promoting bot "friends"
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I've never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn't complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn't date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
I left Facebook in 2009 or 2010 or so, but I attempted to register a facebook account for my business over the weekend. I can confirm, it wanted a selfie of my business. Wasn't sure what to do with that, so I still don't have a facebook account for my business.
Leaving in 2010 was a great choice. I feel like I stayed on way too long only getting rid of it in 2020.
It was the “baby - sandwich - dog” era. Super easy decision at the time 😁
Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID.
Haven't had an account since
Last time my buddy sent me a Facebook link, it wouldn't let me view it without giving them my phone number. I did not.
You can scroll around a tiny bit vefore you are forced to make an account. This is good because it prevents new joiners.
You can bypass this via https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/. Although if you are privacybro, there's no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
use a VPN in Helsinki with fake ID to create a Facebook page so I can buy a used pushmower in Tennessee.
2025, everyone.
Modern problems require modern solutions! Thanks.
Who is actually creating a legitimate Facebook account at this point?
I moderate a few groups on Facebook, and every account I see for new members that was created within the last few years is a spammer. The people who wanted Facebook accounts already have them. Very very few actual human beings are signing up for new legitimate accounts at this point.
Facebook should just close the new account option. They're working toward AIs talking to each other and won't need human interaction any more anyway.
I deleted my Facebook account in 2010 after my college English professor forced us to use it for an assignment. He thought he was hip; I thought it was disgusting. Anyway fast forward a dozen years and like OP says basically the only way to buy and sell used shit now is through FB marketplace. I was willing to create an account just for that, but when they wanted my phone number I said nope no way. This video selfie thing is so much worse.
There are no more excuses, people who say that these services are easier to use are stupid
Video selfie my ass
That probably won't work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.
The dickvid potential is there.
I got this on one of my joke accounts years ago.
I googled "3d face generator", clicked on the first website, and slapped in an image of trump. Then I just rotated the 3d model following whatever the instructions were, and it worked lol
which means a bot could also easily pass the test, even though they claim it's for checking you are not a bot
Zucky needs your image so he can share with with Homeland, in case you visit too many liberal pages.
Ah, hell no.
I would sooner put my nuts in an iron vice while running 10.000 volts through it and lighting it on fire than provide Facebook with anything at all.
Guess the silver lining of this particular instance of dystopian tech-bro fascist nightmare stuff is that it causes more friction, and less people to join up.
I didn't have a Facebook account before. I sure as fuck am not getting one now.
Oh HELL no
Are there any fediversians out there familiar with friendica? From what I can tell, it looks like a FOSS equivalent to Facebook. I was never really into Facebook or Instagram, so on the surface it seems to tick the boxes, but I appreciate they have addiction tier levels of interaction with the majority of people around me, so differences will be glaring for hardcore users.
My partner is an artist, and she's been trialling pixelfed for me; all seems to be going smoothly, but the older generations are FB diehards, so if I have any chance of adoption, it has to be something closer to that experience.
I'm looking to potentially spin up an instance for friends and family to migrate to. They currently have the desire due to the stream of enshittification we're seeing; but people are fickle and I've no doubt that desire can be extinguished by the slightest inconvenience. so any insight on what's good and what's missing regarding friendica (or other FB FOSS alternatives), is definitely appreciated.
afaik Friendica is the closest to Facebook usage among Fediverse platforms, im not aware of new features on Facebook since I quit it a few years ago but for ordinary people i only think to be missing games i know some people used (do they still?) to play to get "achievements" which they could share they got it, i'd usually see it more often from farming or guitar hero-like games, other than that they have plenty of stuff that you won't find in other Fediverse platforms but its also not a platform where you'll find general instances with as many people as in Lemmy/Mastodon/Pixelfed general instances but since you are willing to host for yourself and your friends it might be worth it, you can even have your own RSS feeds within Friendica and browse posts from other platforms outside the Fediverse, you can check the features list on friendi.ca/about/features
I read so many of the comments and concerns, and I don't even disagree with them!
Just want to add my two cents.
Lots of people are talking about how they resent that Marketplace has become the place to sell. I get that.
However, this is more of the same in an ongoing evolution of online ads & classifieds.
Originally eBay was King. Craigslist was kind of under the radar and not enough of a threat that they did anything about it.
Then all kinds of little online competitors to eBay started to pop up and they were becoming reasonably successful.
eBay then acquired PayPal so they could squash up startups. It worked. They no longer own PayPal but things change.
Kijiji popped up and was eating eBay's lunch on a local level. Instead of competing, eBay spun off local classifieds to another company which acquired Kijiji.
I don't even know all the back and forth wranglings, but it's all a giant multi-corporate game that's been played for 30 years.
Then all kinds of different "out of the box" storefronts started to appear.
Now Meta got in the game and they are keeping eBay and Kijiji "honest". They've gone ahead and integrated it with Messenger and other apps so you never have to leave their ecosystem.
It literally took 30 years, but I am finally content as both a buyer and a heavy seller, with all of the online options available. I no longer feel like they are trying to wrangle every penny out of me as of seller, and they let me voluntarily pay to promote my sales in MY terms.
That said, I'm not sure how I feel about needing so much information about people just to make an account.
On one hand (I'm very biased towards the seller's perspective) I can actually see the need to apply as much verification as possible for new accounts. It's been a severe deficiency in their product for years and years and years. And as a seller, I am exhausted with bots and fake accounts and people who want to hide in the shadows, there's no reason to do that when you're buying a vacuum off me and want to come to my home to pick it up.
On the other hand, I made my account years ago so I'm not subject to this requirement. But if I put myself in the shoes of somebody making a new account today. Holy fuck would I not be impressed with this.
I really don't know what the answer is. I would never upload ID or a video of my face to them. I don't know what's needed here.
I fucking hate that marketplace is the new place to find second hand stuff. Meta developed a marketplace to keep people on their website, not to have a good place to sell stuff. There are existing options they were actually developed as marketplaces that are slowly dying because of Meta's crap product.
Pretty sure Instagram also requires something similar in some cases. I tried to make an account recently to see an artist's full postings and it eventually asked me to verify I am a human by submitting a selfie picture. Abso-fucking not. It did "promise" they would delete it within 30 days...
These verification systems have already been defeated with locally-run AI models. This is now only a barrier to humans.
I have an Instagram account where I just lurk, no posting, no following, no likes. At my last sign in there was some message about my account being restricted for supporting extremists or some bullshit and I would need to submit a photo of my ID.
I also just closed it directly. But I need to delete my Meta Accounts some day
Absolute clown show.
Ease of use is a forgotten artform it seems
So full face capture how is this not a violation of privacy? You know they're keeping that shit.