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Idrc about ai or whatever you want to call it. Make it all open source. Make everything an ai produces public domain. Instantly kill every billionaire who's said the phrase "ai" and redistribute their wealth.

I just want my coworkers to stop dumping ai slop in my inbox and expecting me to take it seriously.

More regulation, supervised development, laws limiting training data to be consensual.

2 chicks at the same time.

TBH, it's mostly the corporate control and misinformation/hype that's the problem. And the fact that they can require substantial energy use and are used for such trivial shit. And that that use is actively degrading people's capacity for critical thinking.

ML in general can be super useful, and is an excellent tool for complex data analysis that can lead to really useful insights..

So yeah, uh... Eat the rich? And the marketing departments. And incorporate emissions into pricing, or regulate them to the point where it only becomes viable to non-trivial use cases.

I am largely concerned that the development and evolution of generative AI is driven by hype/consumer interests instead of academia. Companies will prioritize opportunities to profit from consumers enjoying the novelty and use the tech to increase vendor lock-in.

I would much rather see the field advanced by scientific and academic interests. Let's focus on solving problems that help everyone instead of temporarily boosting profit margins.

I believe this is similar to how CPU R&D changed course dramatically in the 90s due to the sudden popularity in PCs. We could have enjoyed 64 bit processors and SMT a decade earlier.

I want lawmakers to require proof that an AI is adhering to all laws. Putting the burden of proof on the AI makers and users. And to require possibilities to analyze all AI's actions regarding this question in court cases.

This would hopefully lead to the devopment of better AI's that are more transparent, and that are able to adhere to laws at all, because the current ones lack this ability.

Just Mass public hangings of tech Bros.

Rename it to LLMs, because that's that it is. When the hype label is gone, it won't get shoved into everywhere for shits and giggles and be used for stuff it's actually useful for.

Like a lot of others, my biggest gripe is the accepted copyright violation for the wealthy. They should have to license data (text, images, video, audio,) for their models, or use material in the public domain. With that in mind, in return I'd love to see pushes to drastically reduce the duration of copyright. My goal is less about destroying generative AI, as annoying as it is, and more about leveraging the money being it to change copyright law.

I don't love the environmental effects but I think the carbon output of OpenAI is probably less than TikTok, and no one cares about that because they enjoy TikTok more. The energy issue is honestly a bigger problem than AI. And while I understand and appreciate people worried about throwing more weight on the scales, I'm not sure it's enough to really matter. I think we need bigger "what if" scenarios to handle that.

Shut it off until they figure out how to use a reasonable amount of energy and develop serious rules around it

They have to pay for every copyrighted material used in the entire models whenever the AI is queried.

They are only allowed to use data that people opt into providing.

There's too many solid reasons to be upset with, well, not AI per say, but the companies that implement, market, and control the AI ecosystem and conversation to go into in a single post. Sufficient to say I think AI is an existential threat to humanity mainly because of who's controlling it and who's not.

We have no regulation on AI, we have no respect for artists, writers, musicians, actors, and workers in general coming from these AI peddling companies, we only see more and more surveillance and control over multiple aspects of our lives being consolidated around these AI companies and even worse, we get nothing more in exchange except for the promise of increased productivity and quality, and that increase in productivity and quality is a lie. AI currently gives you the wrong answer or some half truth or some abomination of someone else's artwork really really fast...that is all it does, at least for the public sector currently.

For the private sector at best it alienates people as chatbots, and at worst is being utilized to infer data for surveillance of people. The tools of technology at large are being used to suppress and obfuscate speech by whoever uses it, and AI is one tool amongst many at the disposal of these tech giants.

AI is exacerbating a knowledge crisis that was already in full swing as both educators and students become less curious about subjects that don't inherently relate to making profits or consolidating power. And because knowledge is seen as solely a way to gather more resources/power and survive in an ever increasingly hostile socioeconomic climate, people will always reach for the lowest hanging fruit to get to that goal, rather than actually knowing how to solve a problem that hasn't been solved before or inherently understand a problem that has been solved before or just know something relatively useless because it's interesting to them.

There's too many good reasons AI is fucking shit up, and in all honesty what people in general tote about AI is definitely just a hype cycle that will not end well for the majority of us and at the very least, we should be upset and angry about it.

Here are further resources if you didn't get enough ranting.

lemmy.world's fuck_ai community

System Crash Podcast

Tech Won't Save Us Podcast

Better Offline Podcast

I’d like for it to be forgotten, because it’s not AI.

If we're going pie in the sky I would want to see any models built on work they didn't obtain permission for to be shut down.

Failing that, any models built on stolen work should be released to the public for free.

Magic wish granted? Everyone gains enough patience to leave it to research until it can be used safely and sensibly. It was fine when it was an abstract concept being researched by CS academics. It only became a problem when it all went public and got tangled in VC money.

I want real, legally-binding regulation, that’s completely agnostic about the size of the company. OpenAI, for example, needs to be regulated with the same intensity as a much smaller company. And OpenAI should have no say in how they are regulated.

I want transparent and regular reporting on energy consumption by any AI company, including where they get their energy and how much they pay for it.

Before any model is released to the public, I want clear evidence that the LLM will tell me if it doesn’t know something, and will never hallucinate or make something up.

Every step of any deductive process needs to be citable and traceable.

I want people to figure out how to think for themselves and create for themselves without leaning on a glorified Markov chain. That's what I want.

Stop selling it a loss.

When each ugly picture costs $1.75, and every needless summary or expansion costs 59 cents, nobody's going to want it.

License it's usage

Training data needs to be 100% traceable and licensed appropriately.

Energy usage involved in training and running the model needs to be 100% traceable and some minimum % of renewable (if not 100%).

Any model whose training includes data in the public domain should itself become public domain.

And while we're at it we should look into deliberately taking more time at lower clock speeds to try to reduce or eliminate the water usage gone to cooling these facilities.

Part of what makes me so annoyed is that there's no realistic scenario I can think of that would feel like a good outcome.

Emphasis on realistic, before anyone describes some insane turn of events.

If we're talking realm of pure fantasy: destroy it.

I want you to understand this is not AI sentiment as a whole, I understand why the idea is appealing, how it could be useful, and in some ways may seem inevitable.

But a lot of sci-fi doesn't really address the run up to AI, in fact a lot of it just kind of assumes there'll be an awakening one day. What we have right now is an unholy, squawking abomination that has been marketed to nefarious ends and never should have been trusted as far as it has. Think real hard about how corporations are pushing the development and not academia.

Put it out of its misery.

I want all of the CEOs and executives that are forcing shitty AI into everything to get pancreatic cancer and die painfully in a short period of time.

Then I want all AI that is offered commercially or in commercial products to be required to verify their training data and be severely punished for misusing private and personal data. Copyright violations need to be punished severely, and using copyrighted works being used for AI training counts.

AI needs to be limited to optional products trained with properly sourced data if it is going to be used commercially. Individual implementations and use for science is perfectly fine as long as the source data is either in the public domain or from an ethically collected data set.